Boys like girls and you have to keep them separated

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  1. arauca Banned Banned

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    Se a good woman if she loves you she will faike it and will go alone . And rape does not have any meaning with in marriage
     
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  3. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    So what does a good man do if he loves her, respect her decision to not have sex when she says no?
     
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  5. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    The hypothetical scenario I posted above is not uncommon in abusive relationships, arauca.
    Good healthy relationships don't have abuse at their core. A man who would force himself on his wife against her will...is no man at all.

    Key word here is force.

    I'm not sure I can add anything else of value here. :/
     
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  7. arauca Banned Banned

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    One time you pass it as long it does not become a habit. But if she loves him she will accommodate him , it works both ways not only one way.
     
  8. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    So are you saying that a good man will respect her decision to not have sex, as long as it doesn't become a habit? Are you also saying that if it does become a habit and he then disrespects her decision to not have sex, and then has sex with her anyway, that he is then no longer a good man?
     
  9. arauca Banned Banned

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    You talking abusive , My former wife played such game on me for 8 months I did not force my self but in ended up that I found a mistress ,. In this case whose abuse was it . should have seemed abuse , I believe there are many cases like that . This is one of the reasons for high divorce.
     
  10. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I don't disagree. I will say this...if two ppl love each other, sex will never become a bargaining chip in their relationship.
    Wouldn't you want someone to want you without coercion?
    Of course you do.

    How did this straw man get here?

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  11. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    That sucks for sure.
    But you got out.
    You didn't force yourself on her.

    Ppl always have options ...you know?
    But abuse is a different animal and men like that often rape their wives.

    I hope u are in a better place now.

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  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    And what's the penalty for not "accommodating" often enough to fulfill the "contract"?

    Suppose she does break this supposed "contract" - what then?

    Suppose she thought she had a contract not to be used for sex against her desire or will - is the husband bound to abide by that - or is his version of the contract the only one that counts?

    Because this sounds like a point of view the wife might not share:
    I think it means rape, and that marriage does not have anything to do with the meaning of rape.

    We have posters who considers the fact that boys like girls to be a reason to keep the girls well away from them - because if a boy likes a girl, he will of course be likely to rape the girl if he has the chance. And the obvious example is marriage, where the boy liked the girl a whole lot, but the girl has contracted to be used for sex whenever the boy wants so we don't have to keep them apart - because there is no such thing as rape, when there is a contract like that.
     
  13. arauca Banned Banned

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    So what is the purpose . ? to have a security blanket and somebody support her . To have a maid is cheaper . In the package marriage sex is included
     
  14. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    You haven't answered the question. There are three versions there, of varying implication - any one of them, try, for starters.
     
  15. arauca Banned Banned

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    I definitively would not go on patrol (in case of ware ) with girls in the same group. Give them office work transportation drivers , but not combat .
     
  16. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Is that um ...sarcasm?

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    thank goodness you showed up to this thread...

    Many of us tried.
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  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    If you really think that - and act on it - you might end up spending a long, long time in prison.

    So you broke the contract there. Interesting.
     
  18. arauca Banned Banned

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    Why is it necessary to call marriage a contract ? it sound so stupid . Marriage is that a man and a woman want to live together , have children satisfy each other and be happy.
    As soon you call it a contract , condition have to be set, if condition have to be set , that is not a marriage, but a business. were ever are condition there can not be love . So such marriage cannot last
     
  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Uh, you were the one who called it a contract in post 76, less than four hours ago. Did you forget?

    Agreed! And expecting free sex on demand from a partner who does not want to have sex is not "being happy." It is making someone else miserable at best, and a crime that will put you in prison at worst.

    Then why did you call it a contract?
     
  20. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I never said it was a contract.
    arauca...marriages have ups and downs...there will be nights a husband or wife is too tired etc for sex.
    The other spouse shouldn't go bananas over a night of no sex.
    If that becomes the norm, you figure out what's wrong.

    The reason this seems foreign to you, is marital rape is rarely reported. But it exists.
    Like I said, typically in abusive relationships.

    Someone, please find this straw man a good home. I beg of you.
    :/
     
  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Not at all: you asked why we have this miserable thread, and that was my genuine (if hastily typed and poorly phrased) answer: we have posters like that, and they start threads like this illustrated with examples like that. And they consider the rest of us unrealistic, not facing facts.

    You called it a contract, and you made the claim that a wife who does not "accommodate" her husband has "forfeit the contract". I then asked about your views on the appropriate consequences she might then expect, in three different views on the "contract" - you have so far not answered that question in any form. I think I know why.
     
  22. arauca Banned Banned

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    Have tou read post 92 ?
     
  23. arauca Banned Banned

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    Bringing the post yo the original intention . my position in the military male and female should not share the same dorms, to avoid problems like rape .
     

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