Poor Woody. You've been on this forum for God knows how long, and you still have trouble grasping the concept that merely because a trait (either physical or psychological) is not purely determined by genetics, does not equate to it being consciously induced by the individual. I've asked you this before, and I'll ask you yet again. Neural tube defects are multifactorial, having primarily a non-genetic origin. Does that mean that babies who suffer from neural tube defects 'will' themselves to develop these defects in the womb? And may I point out that changes in sexual orientation in no way indicate that homosexuality is 'choice.. As a man ages, he tends to lose his libido. If I were to apply your rationale, I'd reach the conclusion that older men must consciously will themselves to feel less attracted to the opposite sex. Likewise, heterosexuals (especially teenagers), tend to feel differently for people over time. Is such emotional modification conscious? As always, your posts are just crap. I reiterate my sentiment about your posts being similiar to Israel: In the sense that they don't deserve to exist.
Woody: Wow, for someone who continually tugs at this topic like a dog with a bone, I thought you'd be a little more knowledgable. Homosexuality is being sexually attracted to members of your own gender. It's that simple. Why are you so confused about the matter? You wouldn't happen to be a closet homosexual, would you? They tend to exhibit such confusion before 'coming out'.
Of course you agree with it -- you'll agree with anything that makes you feel better about being gay.
Self-control, on the other hand, is induced by the individual. An indivdual that can not control their urges lacks character. It's called self-discipline, and americans are greatly lacking. of course not. So? Acting on it is the choice. Now there is a social agenda that says it is ok to give in on all sexual fronts, led by the hollywood entertainment industry. The one where I must abstain is adultery. I don't care how much Hollywood glamorizes sleeping with another woman, this is not ok. They can take viagra. There are choices they make that help shape their outcome. For example, those that chose to indulge in premarital sex are setting themselves up for temptation issues in a marriage. I was thinking the same about yours. I was saying, "oh no, more of mountain hare's name calling diatribes." You almost came clean this time. almost.. but you respond to them anyway, like you can't control yourself. BTW Israel has always existed, so is another holocast needed in your opinion?
Ahh, the gymnastics events that Woody engages in are a delight to watch. Apparently he never said that being ATTRACTED to the same gender was choice, but that acting upon such attraction was. That sort of contradicts his entire 2,000+ plus history on this forum. *shrugs* Whatever. I'm quite happy with this new revelation of Woody's. It's quite reasonable. Feeling sexually attracted to the someone is outside the control of the individual in question. Acting upon sexual urges is within the control of the individual. Now all Woody needs to do is explain why acting upon a homosexual sexual urge is morally wrong, whereas acting upon a heterosexual sexual urge is not. Name calling diatribes? Where did I call you names? Or are you just making stuff up? Tell you what. If you can quote me as having called you a nasty name in this thread, even once, I will fall to my knees and beg for forgiveness.
I find some drag queens attractive in the face anyway. Only becasue it looks like a woman's face. No it's not new. I had an entire thread on drag queens. I think the attraction is also under control, once the moral barrier is drawn. For example I don't lust after beautiful women. Fornication is morally wrong. Maybe its the bitterness. I forget, since it's been a while.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! By the way, what IS wrong with being gay?
Are you claiming you can control your sexual attractions ? That you are attracted, or not, as a matter of choice? Ann didn't say so. What she said was not quite that. Yet you commend dishonesty in others. Are you also glad when they conceal murderous anger, pretend it does not exist in them, and take roles in life dependent on maintaining that control agaisnt constant temptation? Would you set up a culture that depended on creating murderous anger in a large percentage of people and having them conceal and control it under constant temptation continually throughout their lives? Or are you just attempting to equate homosexuality and murder as immoralities? Well, I wasn't speaking of that, was I. With difficulty - and eventually, in failure, if it involves denying a fundamental erotic orientation. Not a good idea. But the Ted Haggards of this world seem to think they have little choice. Where did they get that destructive notion, do you suppose ? Abbey was right.
