Black holes do not exist

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  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Are magnetic fields subject to gravity? Where does it say that?
     
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  3. river

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    The Physics was always there . Hence the mathematical patterns .

    Yet the Quantum makes up physical objects , hence it is physical .
     
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  5. river

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    It doesn't but it should . Without the physical , magnetic fields would not exist . So a singularity would also have minute magnetic field , not an expansive magnetic field .
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No, a quantum of energy is a mathematical value but not yet physical.

    "Energy is a physical quantity that follows precise natural laws."

    (note quantity is not an object. it is a mathematical measurement, a variable pattern)


    Teaching about the nature of energy is supported by 8 key concepts:
    https://cleanet.org/clean/literacy/energy1.html#
     
  8. river

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    Yet a quantum particle . A quanta of energy is light .
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Woohhh.. wait a minute. Without the physical "gravity" would not exist. Apparently magnetic fields can exist in spite of physical gravity.
     
  10. river

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    But not in spite of the size of the physical object . The magnetic field is compressed as well as the physical object .
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Is computronium a particle?

    Computronium

    Relevance to Friendly AI
    https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/computronium

    Or semi-intelligence.
     
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Example?
     
  13. river

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    I can't there has been no research into this . But All Magnetic Fields have a Physical base . Galaxies , Stars , the macro and micro of this Universe , the Physical . The larger the object with a magnetic field , the larger the magnetic field expanse becomes .
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, but we are not talking about the object, we are talking about a magnetic field.

    Is magnetism an expression of energy?

    Magnetic Potential Energy

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    where ΔU = 2μB
    The expression for magnetic potential energy can be developed from the expression for the magnetic torque on a current loop.
    http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magpot.html
     
  15. river

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    In the end Write4U we are talking about the magnetic field and its essence .
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    And it's essence is a mathematical value, which interacts with other mathematical values.
     
  17. river

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    Write4U , lets go back to the chaos theory .

    In the chaos theory , there is both chaos and order , patterns and the like . I agree . But Without order nothing would exist . Hence Galaxies etc. . Would not exist without order and therefore exist within that order are patterns . I expressed that in My Cosmology , or some other thread where it has has been locked .

    This order is not because of mathematics . The patterens are not because of mathematics but because of the Natures of the physical . Chaos theory is not in empty space , devoid of any physical object . For the theory to make any sense to anybody physical objects are the essence of chaos theory .

    Chaos is the creativity of the Universe , Order ( periodic table , matter , is order ) is the Stability of the Universe .
     
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  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I agree.
    I disagree. The ordering occurs via certain fundamental universal mathematical regularities (algorithms).
    Yes, the mathematical nature of the physical orderings.
    I agree, you have just identified the mathematical regularities of the nature of the Universe, including the regularities of quantum patterns that constitute matter.

    What is matter theory?
    IOW, it is the mathematical relationship of dynamic particles that create orderly patterns. Without order there is only chaos.
     
  19. river

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    So what ! . Which proves what ? , Exactly ?
     
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    Incomplete .

    It doesn't explain matter , and why matter exists , in the first place .
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Any order in the universe is of a mathematical nature. Pure matter without order IS chaos.. Order is always of a mathematical nature.
    Order is not matter, order is an abstract concept.
    Pure proto-matter is quantum plasma which consist of unordered fields of quantum values . It is when pattern combinations of these values emerge from the chaotic field, that physical matter is created with measurable mathematical properties.
    But even then, the emergent matter patterns still must obey the mathematical rules which ordered them in the first place.
    Matter behaves predictably the way it does because of its inherent mathematical essence that is required for pattern formation, which expressed in observable physical reality[/quote]
     
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  22. river

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    Wrong . Any order is physically based .
     
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    Why does this pattern exist ?
     

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