Mostly agree, except again, I see the Singularity coming into vogue when GR starts to fail, and obviously that is at the Planck/Quantum scale. Coupling that with my previous mention, about a Singularity need not have Infinite quantities, but could lead to infinite quantities is important I suggest. OK...Planck scale is though a theoretically mathematically derived concept. The basis of this whole discussion is that Ravesh does not accept BH's and does not accept links or references to such. He has approximately said that in his own words. All I ever ask, is that anyone who doubts the existence of BH's, should then also be able to come up with another scenario that can describe the effects that are seen on spacetime and matter/energy within such regions.