Lucy snow All that go forth and help yourself stuff I know already. Living it! I've been around for a long time and I can remember, the rest I study with interest! The NGOs, the charities, the dependancy. Yes the solutions to many problems do come from within but the white man has got to get his superiority complex under control! Racism exists despite your apparent (snow)blindness to it and it damages both the recipient and the perpetrator by dehumanising both. We may never be rid of it altogether but to give up trying - over my dead body (probably). The US the land of self-sufficiency (laughing). Whoa that's the best I ever did hear. Do you wanna ponder for a minute just how they got to be so "self sufficient"? Does the influx of labour from 'third' world have anything at all to do with that? Or chucking a few million self sufficient Native Americans off their oil rich, fertile lands? Take you bleedin blinkers off! As for desegregation? Wasn't it always on the white man's terms, within the white man's set of priorities? Let a few black kids into the schools and up to the soda fountain. Read that bit about the 1920s and black property ownership again. When the white people thought the black people were getting too close - they pulled the plug because they held the financial strings. So much for 'self help' huh? It only goes so far. Also if you take a closer look at the system we all toiling under you will understand that it needs to keep a large pool of people low down and dirty in order to fulfil the demands for a flexible workforce - casual labour, exploitable 'illegal' immigrant labour; without all this the system would collapse. There will never be full employment within a capitalist system. Period. All the self help in the world will not provide unless of course people have full access to finance, land, infrastructure. Oh and your comments about Katrina criminality. 200 arrests from 250 000 + stranded, thirsty, hungry and suffering people? And those nasty black people singing about violence and nastiness and all. Well hell who do you think is listening to it and finding it so 'cool'. Suburban white youths trying to buy a piece of the street! And have you noticed how rich these gangsta guys are getting and buying themselves some control. OOh scary ain't it? They have taken what the white man fears the most "a nigga witha gun" and made it into a billion dollar industry. How's that for self sufficiency? Branching out now into clothing lines, perfume, property, finance... And the only way to get rid of the ghetto is to leave it. And maybe move next door to JB...... Solutions there are plenty but are you really interested?