Big bang and conservation of energy

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  1. PartyBoy Registered Member

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    The big bang theory violates the known laws of conservation of energy. I believe it is necessary to reformulate our theory.
     
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  3. Tach Banned Banned

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    I see, you are a new addition to the long list of cranks populating this forum.
     
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  5. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't, since energy is balanced by negative (gravitational) potential energy, meaning the total energy of the universe is (practically) zero.
     
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  7. PartyBoy Registered Member

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    Um. Hardly cranky. I just wanted to pose this question to exaust all options which lead to this particular conclusion before anyone else gets the chance. Got a problem with that?
     
  8. PartyBoy Registered Member

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    Does that mean there is an opposite universe which our universe displaces gravity upon? (filled with stuff like antimatter for instance)
     
  9. Tach Banned Banned

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    You are spamming multiple threads with your crackpotteries.
     
  10. PartyBoy Registered Member

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    You fail newtonian mechanics. For every force there is an equal and opposite. Any person can study the facts individually, but when it comes down to the hardest questions like this somebody should be able to deligate an appropriate answer.
     
  11. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Another crank troll. Just what this site needs.
     
  12. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Well, sort of: the Big Bang pre-dates energy, so conservation of energy doesn't apply.

    Worse for you, the unfortunately and inaccurately named Big Bang Theory doesn't explain the beginning of the universe, it starts just after and explains the expansion. So your objection doesn't even apply to the Big Bang Theory itself.
     
  13. Tach Banned Banned

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    Yes, they are drowning the forum turning it into a cesspool.
     
  14. PartyBoy Registered Member

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    Actually the theory is based off the equivalence in temperature between cosmic radiation and a black body. The opposition to this heat is space which contains the idea of "cold". Let's not forget the basis behind theory and fact. Therefore it would not be farfetched to say in the beginning heat and cold were dispersed conserving their energy through expansion of their own opposition.
     
  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I think you should go public with your "conservation of cold" theory! Perhaps follow it with a "conservation of dark" a "conservation of silence" and a "conservation of having no money at all" principles.
     
  16. PartyBoy Registered Member

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    I'm a grad student. This is basic physics (except cold being opposite to heat (which theory might have considered obvious.) The best I have heard so far is the BB predates conservation which is viable. Please don't hate me for pointing out obvious flaws in a theory verses a law and once more attempting to reconcile the facts surrounding the theory with viable overlooked conditions.
     
  17. ChessMaster Banned Banned

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    Actually, the OP may not be so far from the truth. There has been some cosmological confirmation from observations that the universe is actually loosing energy. Energy is not conserved in global systems.

    The big bang hasn't stopped and it continues today, which means that the universe doesn't actually conserve energy as was once understood... at least in the current thinking with the scientific community.
     
  18. ChessMaster Banned Banned

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    That's only a mathematical anomaly, not a true tested theory.
     
  19. Tach Banned Banned

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    While the above is correct, this is not how the crank phrased it. "The big bang theory violates the conservation of energy....The laws of physics need to be redone."
     
  20. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    English Lit?
     
  21. PartyBoy Registered Member

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    I stated "theory" and got jumped like a hot schoolgirl after prom was announced...
     
  22. PartyBoy Registered Member

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    The energy might be dispersing or transforming from matter into antimatter ( which would be difficult to detect on a cosmic scale). But equivalence is easier to comprehend than entropy yet both are laws formed with mathematical equations not pure observations based on verbiage.

    To Alex who questions my credentials philosophy, psychology, and the most recent is in physics which seems innocuous and straightforward, but I was apparently mistaken.
     
  23. Tach Banned Banned

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    I'll have Ranch with this.

    Foo.
     

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