The lovey-dovey one depicted by those who don't know any better has no substance. The one depicted in the bible is wicked. And my problem with people who say he was a great man are that they're promoting this wicked ideology without realizing it. If you'd stop conceding this inaccurate portrait of the Christ, maybe Christianity would start to lose some of its mainstream appeal among the non-religious. The opposite is true, actually. The torment only stops when you fight back. I was bullied for a short time in 8th grade, until I finally stood my ground and fattened one of their lips. I could walk home in peace after that. Bullies rely on your weakness, on your inability to hurt them back. There is no consequence to their actions, so it becomes a release for their own shortcomings. Bullying and war have little in common. Bullies, as I said before, are usually acting out of some frustration. There's never any dispute involved. Wars, on the other hand, usually have something to do with land claims or ideologies. The only commonality between the two phenomenon, actually, is that turning the other cheek is the only sure path to your own destruction. Except that's not how it really happens. The only way to make the bully look like a fool is to plant him on his ass. You can stop him by appealing to adults, but you can't make him look stupid without beating him at his own game. And just try applying that mentality to any other context. Turning the other cheek during Hitler's reign would have accomplished what, exactly?