Atheist expects death to be oblivion.

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  1. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    All my memories & thought processes are due to functions performed by my brain.

    What is left when my brain ceases to function?

    The thought of a hereafter existence is comforting but delusional.
     
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  3. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Not necessarly... for 1... it depends on what the afterhere woud consist of... an for all i know it may be true.!!!
     
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  5. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    That's my belief too.

    Objectively? The entire rest of the universe. (And whatever else exists.) People die every day and all the rest of it is still here.

    Subjectively?

    Not oblivion, exactly. 'Oblivion' kind of suggests a kind of blank or contentless experience. But I don't expect to have any experience when I die, not even an experience of oblivion.
     
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  7. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    I've been anesthetized for surgery. The lights went out; the lights came back on - nothing in between.
    That's oblivion. When i die, the lights won't come back on. What's left is carrion.
     
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  8. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    The lights go out and I am no longer... I don't have a problem with that.
     
  9. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Unless one factors in false bravado, this is a truly bizarre assessment of one's existence
     
  10. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Care to expand on this, or are people to simply guess as to what you find bizarre about it?
     
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  11. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Why? What's to be scared of? It happens to everyone.

    Granted, I am in no hurry to experience it. But when the time comes, one really has no choice. You can go out screaming or you can face it with dignity. Either way, it happens.
     
  12. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't exist for 13.8 billion years, while lots of other things did exist. I was content with that.
    I won't exist again for however long the universe lasts after my death, while lots of other things do. I won't mind that.
    I did exist for 72 years in between, which is far longer than the vast majority of other denizens of this planet. I'm happy about that.
     
  13. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly! Remember before you were born? Neither do I... It will be just like that.
     
  14. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Everything we said on SciForums will live on after us.

    "Whatever happened to that idiot who said all those stupid things in 2018?"

    "He's been dead for years."​
     
  15. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Not me.

    I had a post deleted.
     
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  16. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    What's that old joke? When I die, I'd like to go peacefully in my sleep - like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car did.
     
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  17. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, even the internet has a finite life-span.
    But, as long as somebody's making fun of him, is he really gone? Cloud or no cloud, twitter or no twitter.
    In Finland, for instance, they're starting a new fad of raking the forest. Five hundred years from now, when the November Forest-raking Festival comes around, nobody will remember how the tradition actually started, but there will be hot competition for the honour of bearing The Donald, on his gold-foil throne, at the head of the procession.
    That's immortality. ​
     
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  18. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Science-fiction story: In the 24th century, a long internet discussion turns out to be a grave-dig from 2018.

    Probably been done. Maybe by Kilgore Trout.
     
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  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    That ending of existence terrifies a lot of people.

    Hence religion.
     
  20. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    It's one thing to say something is inevitable. It is something else to allude to being unperturbed in the face of it.
     
  21. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Fixed that for you

    And if the inevitable glass ceiling of material acquisition rears its ugly head, then one is left to fantasize.
    Eg.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/downloading-consciousness-immortality.160741/
     
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  22. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    To say that one has no problem with something ceasing to exist is to say that it has equal value in it's existent or nonexistent state ... IOW it is valueless. This sort of indifference to the prospect of existence is contrary to the nature of existence in anyone who is sane or in an otherwise diseased state.

    Sure, you can argue that this whole world functions on the premise of alluded value on a platform that is essentially bereft of value ... but such so-called words of wisdom, to award them the highest generosity, provide only a brief cerebral fraction of a moment of reprieve in a world that demands participation and dedication to the pursuit of such alluded values.
     
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  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. Religion promises to end your fears over death. Spending does not.
     

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