Atheism vs Agnosticism

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  1. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    No. Prove you believe of those things, anyways.

    Faith can't help conflicting books of scripture but to put it in hell.
     
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  3. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I personally don't believe any of it, but we are speaking philosophically. Which sacred texts do we "put in hell"? And doesn't that statement implicitly acknowledge Christianity? Perhaps the Aztecs were correct in their faith and you aren't. Anyway, the very existence of other faiths proves that you are wrong when you say that faith would not exist if the objects of that faith do not, since you said yourself they are conflicted, and cannot therefore all be true.
     
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  5. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I am citing the faithful state as evidence for a heavenly afterlife, logically.

    What inspires high faith? Big tits, and good science.
     
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  7. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    But you are only citing the Christian faithful, is that correct? Why is their faith evidence and other faiths not?
     
  8. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    What do you mean by faith?

    Faith, the universal one. Faith the feeling of fire. Christian faith, what does that mean? Faith doesn't associate as a Christian, or Muslim.
     
  9. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    So you seem to assume that all faith is monotheistic.
     
  10. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Faith states a supreme God, and gods. Faith is a universal feeling, there aren't many faith's.

    What does faith depict when used in such a manner; Christian, or Protestant faith?
     
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  11. Balerion Banned Banned

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    My point was that Huxley himself didn't view it as you do. (I'm also not convinced the agnostic is demanding definitive proof) I understand and accept that definitions grow and change, but you're talking agnosticism on a fundamental level, and Huxley--the man who coined the term--did not view it as the answer to a different question, but an answer to the very same question. It was an alternative to theism and atheism, not a supplement to those positions.
     
  12. Balerion Banned Banned

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    You're wasting your time. It's all gibberish.
     
  13. rodereve Registered Member

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    Your line of thinking is similar to the "intelligent design" approach, where the design must indicate a designer. But does it really?

    And faith does not point towards omniscience. I think that if there was an omnimax being out there, we would not take it on faith that it exists, it should be crystal clear or very apparent.
     
  14. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Faith is a flying man. The bringer of fire. :/

    Its not "intelectual design" more than a natural process.

    I biologically believe w/o a heavenly afterlife? No.
     
  15. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I know. I had time to waste yesterday.
     
  16. rodereve Registered Member

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    Errrr I have no clue what you're saying now. flying man? biologically believe?
     
  17. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I experience high belief, I can fly here.

    Faith in an imaginative universe, I can make it rain pot, and summon fire.

    Prove faith, and prove the naturally flowing, batterie linked, universal imagination. The imagination, are we a series of computers receiving ,and contributing to her network? Via faith, my imagination can link to yours.

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    Prove me truthful, not a work of fiction.

    Believe, like the wish to be here. Is that truth, is it biological? Or do we lie and say we enjoy our existence? Lmao. I can easily say I would not to wish to be here if I can't levitate rocks. If I can prove the wish bone, I can fly.

    A little off topic, but a thread about positions of un-faith, and un-know is a little devious. Especially on a science board. A natural lie, or the inner working of the apocalyptic mind. You do believe, or keel over. You do believe, so Light too.

    Faith would not evolve on earth, must have been born into a heavenly state. Or kiss his royal ass good bye.
     
  18. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I now know that you aren't a schizophrenic, just someone with behavior patterns that aren't recognized as "normal" by our culture at the present time. In the future, you may become president of the world.
     
  19. rodereve Registered Member

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    I understand now.
     
  20. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Please share. What is my behavior pattern?
     
  21. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Generally being incoherent.
     
  22. Pithikos Registered Member

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    Because it's a more diplomatic belief. An atheist usually is more of a militant in his beliefs that god doesn't exist. An agnostic will never come in conflict as he has the mantra "he might exist, he might not, what do you know". Probably agnosticism is a more logical and scientific approach to the matter of god's existence. However diplomatic beliefs tend to be rather boring and non-intriguing.

    I don't think it's possible to be both. How can you believe that god doesn't exist and at the same time say that he might exist and might not? Then it should be possible to even be a christian agnostic or a muslim agnostic.
     
  23. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    Stop being so wet.
    If you don't know, you don't know.

    That's an agnostic.
     

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