Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by Syzygys, Apr 5, 2008.
I find it doubtful you never played "doctor"? Dr. Kinsey was big in the 1950's.
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okay so i have been thinking about this a lot! Talked to a few friends about it, being raised by the "strange" dad that i was i have to do this fairly often.
Most of the time it takes me a good couple of weeks to get his words out of my head and get my own thoughts straight.
Anyway i am thinking you might be right, maybe when the time comes a "safe place" is best.
Those were my dads thoughts on sex. I have since changed my opinions about such things and my kids know that they can say no when ever the hell they want.. or the other person can. I am just glad i figured that out before they got to old.
its amazing the the "morals" i have in my head that are just there and i don't even know why i feel that way until i am questioned about them.
I am glad this thread was started and thank you for both sides of the coin!!
Actually, I have found the answer:
Sleepovers stop when *I* say: no more sleepovers!
Thats the best i have heard.
that's ok in theory, but if you dont let them have sleep overs, what will you do when they're friends invite your kids over for sleep overs, if you say yes, then your the best perant in the world, and if you say no, it makes the friend think you dont like them!!
I still have people sleep round. And i'm 23.
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I am trying hard, I already LOWERED my expectations to the ground.They are not bad kids, just dumb....
By the way, this whole thing boils down to my not being able to sleep if there is noise around. So as long as they are making noises 3 miles away, I don't care!!!
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last night my daughter had her friend to stay over, and it was awful, before i went to bed, i told them both, "now, make sure that you both go to bed at a decent time" so they went to bed at 5:30 this morning, and she is knackered, me being a total bitch (my daughters word) woke her and her friend up at 10:00 by hoovering the stair case!
she now hates me,
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she thinks that was a low thing to do, but hey, if i can't sleep, because she woke her brother up, then why the hell should she sleep all day!!
Not with children. You don't seem to understand that in those days adolescence was an extended childhood. We didn't have adult fun but we didn't have adult responsibilities either. It was really rare for a high school kid to own a car; the parking lot was full of bicycles. (Driving age was 16 in those days and we all got our licenses but that didn't mean we were actually out on the roads.) Nobody I knew ever heard of the Kinsey report until we were in college. Even if I had, I had nobody to play doctor with. I didn't start dating until my senior year and girls were not nearly as casual about sex as they are today. There was about one teen pregnancy in my entire town and it was truly a "scandal."
We were not "young adults" as they're called today. We were kids and we did kid stuff.
There's a reason that everybody sleeps at more or less the same time and is up working at more or less the same time, even in the modern era when jobs are more flexible. Kids need to learn about that and you gave them a good lesson.
Well I'm sure the world was different in the 50's, but how much of what you say is statistical and how much is antidotal. For example 50% of house wives were committing adultery in the 50's, statistically teen pregnancy rates were higher in the 1950's then today so I honestly don't believe the 'american pie, atomic family, happy days' 1950's facade.
yes, but most of them were married.
No, it is true that a married teenager (or that marriage was the outcome of teenage pregnancy) was more popular back then then it is today, the median for marriage back then was 20.3, compared to todays 26, which means a marriage at 15-17 was still odd even in the 1950's
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so an eighteen or nineteen yr old getting pregnant wasn't considered a teen pregnancy?
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I think there's a transition point where a "sleepover" becomes "crashing at someone's place". Other than that, not sure why sleepovers have a childish connotation to them...
I was going to say that. It's like when you're a kid you have sleepovers because it's fun and exciting and you get to see your friends longer and play with them when you wake up. When you're older, it's more crashing because one or several of you are drunk.
I think after a certain age, if they are able to, people prefer to wake up in their own place instead of someone else's.
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