Arizona Shooting Spree, Congresswoman, judge, among victims...

A disgusting attempt to smear a movement and gain political traction from a usual suspect. Is this really the kind of thing you think is acceptable debate? The guy was crazy. Whatever ideology he pointed to when he acted on his craziness is irrelevant. Your water-carrying for the Democrat party has hit a low I did not even think you were capable of.

 

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not necessarily. just because a mind is damaged doesn't mean it will always be violent.



and thank you for repeating one of the things that those who defend these peddlers of hate say.

 

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You should stop trying to defend the indefensible.

 

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as usual in your attempt to be condescending or act supportive of ideologies you miss the point. yes this guy was crazy which the reason the highly violent rhetoric we hear had more of an effect on him. it still doesn't change the fact that the era of highly violent and hateful rhetoric we live in is dangerous and these are the results of such rhetoric. and when a certain movement is known for such rhetoric when the reaper comes calling it is they who must take the blame for calling him.

 

There are peddlers of hate on both sides.

The bile on Olbermann and the vitriol one finds on Daily Kos or Huffington more than matches Fox et al.

And anyone who knows anything about domestic terrorism realizes that extremists on the right-wing are prone to violence, based on their past. But I don't think their bread crumb trail goes back to the GOP and Rush the way people like you and Joe want it to.

If anything, they dislike the GOP and its mouthpieces. Some of these people might have gravitated to the Tea Party, but so what? Black Panthers vote Democrat. ELF is an active Leftist terrorist organization.

It's funny because Dems are also the ones who want to make sure we understand radical Islam and not condemn all of Islam for the actions of a few. And yet, when something like this happens, water-carriers like Joe have no problem condemning an entire political group and all of the media he doesn't like with guilt by association because it advances his bullshit rhetoric.

It's pathetic and disgusting.

 

But here is the rub, they don't encourage violence to effect their will either. The use of violent symbols as Palin and other right wing leaders have done in political discourse is irresponsible.

Last summer the right wing thugs were spitting on Democratic members of congress. Now they are shooting them and their supporters. Enough is enough.

 

Not everyone with a damaged mind will be violent, but anyone who is set off by criticism of the government is just a ticking bomb, so to speak. If it wasn't "peddlers of hate" (who seem to be defined as "people who don't share pjdude's opinions), it would be The Sopranos or Fringe or Keith Olbermann or The 700 Club.

 

which is why I am blaming them all but I am putting the focus on those that mostly rely on messages of violence like the tea party.

only to people who need that to be true so they don't have to confront facts. there is yes anger but never anything remotely close to the calls for violence inherent in a lot of right wing rhetoric. once again the alledged lack of ideology is shown to be lie

 

Do you believe that Sarah Palin is the only one who has ever used a crosshair to denote a legislative/electoral target?

And I'm still not seeing that this guy was particular right-wing, though more information about him will undoubtedly come out later.

 

This, pretty much.

I heard about the shooting yesterday morning and immediately came here to see how Joe and the usual suspects were going to pretend that this guy was a typical right-winger (if he's even a right-winger at all). I'm surprised it took him as long as it did to start the thread.

 

Please show some examples.

Except the Black Panters don't exist anymore. And they have never been associated with the Democratic Party. When was the last time you saw a member of the Black Panthers or an ELF member run on the Democratic ticket? Never.

LOL, you are back to your old habits...creating strawmen again - just like you bud mr. limbaugh and other right wing whackos.

Republicans too are advocating not waging war on all of Islam. Additionally, I have not condemned an entire group. I have voiced concern and disgust that those who have used inflamatory rhetoric versus a honest discussion of the issues. The right wing, the Tea Partiers have gone from spitting on Democratic members of Congress to attempting to kill them. And that has got to stop along with the inflamatory rhetoric used by the right wingers in this country.

And you my friend need to stop being a water carrier for the right wing whackos in our midst.

 

what a surprise a rightie trolls instead of treying to rely on you know intelligence. yet another right wing hack on this sight who pretend he can read fucking minds. if you think that's how I defined than your an idiot. I was refering to all people that who helped amp up the discourse to what it is. the fact that you saw something in there, people who disagree with me, says a lot about your prejudiaces and biases and make you look at little off kilter.when your seeing things like that in inclusive language you got problems. for all you effort to attack me you just showed your self as part of the problem. seeing attacks against yourself and your beliefs when none exist.

 

so right wing rhetoric is only heard by righties? even something not inline with ones beliefs can have an effect.

 

Oh please, produce some evidence of equivalence. And as for the individual's political beliefs, I think you should see what sheriff said.

 

I guess your refusal to address the points means that you agree that someone this unstable would have "gone off" eventually.

 

Very well said Bells!

 

http://www.postonpolitics.com/2010/04/democrats-our-bullseye-targets-on-house-districts-are-not-like-palins-crosshair-targets/

And I read what the sheriff said. No proof, just a guess. And, like I said before, anyone who would go on a killing spree because some right-wingers on the radio distrust the government is a fucking loon who's ready to snap, anyway.

 

Ignoring the fact that the shooter never mentions\mentioned any of these things or was never known to support them.

 

Quit making sense. The fact that a Democrat politician was among the victims is concrete proof that the killer was hired by Dubya hisself. Anyone who says otherwise is getting a free vacation to a FEMA camp.