Are you a Republican or a Democrat?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jan Ardena, Feb 28, 2019.

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What is your current position?

  1. I am republican

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  2. I am a democrat

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  3. I am traditionally a republican

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  4. I am traditionally a democrat

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  5. I changed from republican to democrat

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  6. I changed from democrat to republican

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  7. I don’t involve myself in American politics

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  1. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    This could apply to any one, of any nationality, who have an interest in American politics.

    Jan.
     
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  3. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    No, it could not.
    US Party membership is a formal designation - one registers as a Party member.

    Meanwhile, whether or not someone "is a Democrat" is secondary - almost irrelevant - to the key fact of US politics for the past thirty years or so, which can be shorthanded thus:
    From this guy: http://driftglass.blogspot.com

    Or, slightly expanded, same source ( http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2019/02/mutually-assured-democracy.html ):
    Or, background, different source: https://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2016/08/after-storm-delegitimizing-clinton-win.html
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I'm registered as an independent. Right now neither party represents me well - although the democrats are certainly the lesser of two evils currently.
     
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  7. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    As a Canadian, I would describe the Democrats as "not completely lost yet". The Republicans are, I think, beyond redemption.
     
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  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    <---- Libertarian Socialist

    I do not have a party affiliation.

    Political rallies creep me out.
     
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  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    If I were to live in the United States, voting would be a no brainer. The Republicans are now the party of Trump. No sensible person would vote for them.*

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    * P.S. No, actually, that's not fair. If one has certain vested interests, then a vote for the Republicans can make sense on a personal level. But if you care at all about your fellow Americans, the state of the nation, the global situation, etc., then the choice ought to be obvious.
     
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  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The Republican Party did not become a shitpile of fundies, bigots, and imbeciles in the summer of 2016.
    The Republican Party has not changed, in its basics, since Reagan.
    Newt Gingrich, who talked a lot like Trump, handed around the GOPAC memo in 1990. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOPAC
    Rush Limbaugh received is "Majority Maker" award for ushering in the Republican Congress of 1994. That's 25 years ago. He did it by talking like Trump on the radio. https://www.nytimes.com/1994/12/12/...&gwh=C45BB677F553D54C2DC03383D5735F2A&gwt=pay
    In fashionable photographic form:
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OjYwlqNc...GAs/s1600/Holy_Shit_By_All_Never_Trumpers.jpg

    Trump=Republican. Republican=Trump. That has been the case since 1984 at the latest.
     
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  11. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Isn't Trump a democrat?
     
  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    No. Capital D or small d, either one.
     
  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    He was; he changed his mind.
     
  14. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    There is evidence of that?
     
  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    That he changed his mind and switched from democrat to republican? Yes, there is.
     
  16. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Example?
    Keeping in mind that nothing Trump says is evidence of anything.
     
  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    His voter registration cards (and voting records.)
     
  18. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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  19. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    I considered myself a centrist democrat, but I've lost all hope in the party, so I switched. If they offer any hope in the future, I might switch back
     
  20. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    What did the party you switched to have to offer that the democrats didn't?
     
  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    To fascism?
    For the hope it offers?
    Authoritarian violence against the inferior, lower taxes for the rich.
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm. I've lost most of my hope in both parties, too. But while the democratic party is often inept and self-defeating, the GOP has become downright evil.

    I'd rather support the party that comes up with unworkable green new deals and puts too much emphasis on welfare, than the party that rips kids from families and puts them in cages.
     
  23. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    That's a word in much use these days. It loses its meaning every time it's used by those with no argument.

    That sounds really, really bad. Perhaps those children would do better in a detention center with their parents (assuming they are their real parents). Anyways, it's our responsibility to sort it all out when they cross the border illegally? Curses on those who deal with the problem every day.
     

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