Are You A Quantum Creationist?

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  1. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    The concept is there. ZOG stands for Zionist Obsessed Goberment. The entire page has been accurately described as the Granddaddy of all conspiracy theories.
     
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  3. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    and yet, here you are, asking such a thing with an intent too spew your mentally disable shenanigans only. lets be honest, you have no clue of any science as you continually make it obvious.

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    pathetic.

    also, what exactly is the significance of " you have written " ?
     
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    A term also conspicuously absent from that page.

    In other words: utter dross and not a theory so much as irrational unsupported speculation. Got it.
     
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    No, that's just your dishonest lying twist on what you were trying to imply.
    None of those physicists exclaim any stupid magical pixie or intelligent design
    Stop being so stupidly dishonest.
    It's what you imply. Remember, telling lies [or half lies or not revealing the true nature of your goal] makes little baby Jesus cry, or any other source/interpretation of any other preferred magical deity.

    Let me tell you now. Your beef with science, along with other half baked religious fanatics, is that science has pushed the need for any deity back into near oblivion.
    Even the Catholic church to maintain a semblance of credibilty, now accept the evolution of life [Dawinism] and the BB.
    Your own twisted weird take on religion/beliefs, will in time die and fade away as other mythical aspects of gullible human nature will.
    Remember we, you, me, and every creature on Earth or elsewhere, were all born in the belly of stars.
    We are just star dust my friend!
     
  8. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    So you want to protest my summary of Richard P. Feynman on quantum physics.
     
  9. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Confessing Millerite Adventists have to move and speak stealthily. ZOG is already onto us.
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Every confessing millerite adventist, every seven day adventist and every other gullible ratbag, idiot and moron on this planet, were all born in the belly of stars.
     
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    Ah, I see that your comprehension problems[1] are far more severe than I had supposed.
    I clearly outlined the contradiction.
    I also reduced the statement of your error to a single sentence - although perhaps the inclusion of a comma made it too complicated for you.
    Can you point out - either in the quoted passages OR (I'll be generous here) anywhere in ANY work by Feynman - where he resorts to calling on the "supernatural"? Or where he claims that QM isn't natural?
    I'll go further: can you provide any evidence where ANY scientist working in QM has resorted to the supernatural or claimed that QM isn't natural?
    If not then the conclusion you made, specifically that "QM repudiates naturalism", apart from being directly contradictory to your earlier statement (nature isn't predictable), is A) wrong and B) entirely unsupported by any scientific source/ authority you care to name.


    1 Or your intellectual dishonesty, I'm not sure which although I have my suspicions.
     
  12. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Not at all. The five hour documentary embedded there presents incredibly powerful support in defense of the most compelling 9/11 conspiracy theory.

    My favorite however is this 1 hour and 50 minute version:

     
  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Oh at last!
    Actual scientific evidence.
    (That was sarcasm by the way - a "troofer" YouTube video doesn't even come close to matching scientific criteria of evidence).
    So, again, all you have is bullsh*t claims and paranoid conspiracies.
     
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  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    OMFG!! Not only a gullible person who accepts some mythical unseen, unevidenced magical pixie in the sky, but also an inane conspiracy adherent!

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    Like is said eugene, your sort of nonsense and conspiracy are destined to fade away into oblivion...just as our ancestors beliefs in river gods, mountain gods, sun gods, Moon gods have done.
    If it wasn't for science my friend, you would still be swinging in the trees. Which by the way were also along with everything else you see, born in the belly of stars.
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Does every other silly confessing millerite adventist also believe tis conspiracy nonsense?
    Or is this just a quick change of tactics with you since your pissy magic pixie has flown the coop?
     
  16. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    A major characteristic of naturalism is determinism. It is widely acknowledged that no deterministic physical theory is consistent with the equations and logical consequences of quantum mechanics. John von Neumann thought that he even proved that result mathematically.
     
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    1) You admitted freely that nature isn't predictable. That's one down.
    2) The link is to to naturalism in LITERATURE is it because
    3) No such caveat appears in the (nearly) relevant article on philosophical naturalism? or
    4) In the definition of methodological naturalism?
    So the question arises: how do you think you'll be able to get away with such blatant dishonesty?[1]

    The question here even ignoring your futile and lying attempt to bring determinism into it is: so f*cking what?
    Science is about what we observe.
    If all we can come up with is a statistical "explanation" then that's what we work with.

    1 And reported for being a dishonest tw*t.
     
  18. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Richard Feynman has said that repeatedly. Check my references carefully.
     
  19. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    And I'm not disputing that, nor have I. Is this your comprehension deficit showing again?
    Go back and read my original post about the contradiction you fell into.
    Nature IS unpredictable.
    So the fact that QM is also unpredictable doesn't "repudiate" naturalism.
     
  20. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    And what we observe is that repeating identical experiments produces different results. That's not the expectation of the natural, philosophical mind.
     
  21. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Is the spontaneous quantum creation of a beautiful woman out of inanimate matter natural or supernatural?

    Here is a simple visual aid to assist those who have difficulty understanding this question:

     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The only question that I have difficulty in understanding is how religious trolls and fanatic zealots such as yourself, can lie, misinterpret, misunderstand, and the total intellectual dishonesty you show in trying to promote your pixie and Intelligent design.
    It must be so hard for fanatical zealots such as yourself to accept that science has made your god of choice redundant.
    And you add fictional TV shows to support your fictional conspiracy nonsense and your fictional pixie crap.
     
  23. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Which is why it's science and not philosophy.
     
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