Are We Going to War With Iran?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Bowser, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    It seems like the propaganda machine is churning and sabers are rattling. Could they be preparing us for yet another war? I read online that Iran is backing down from its threat to block the Strait of Hormuz, but what if Obama goes ahead with his plan to implement more sanctions? What will the Iranians then do?
     
  2. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    TEHRAN, Iran • Talk of blocking the strategic oil route through the Strait of Hormuz is a discussion of the past, a commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard said Saturday in comments that seemed to back away from an earlier threat. But he said Iran had other, unspecified strategies for reacting to any Western aggression.

    "Discourse about closing the Strait of Hormuz belongs to five years ago. Today's debate in the Islamic Republic of Iran contains new layers, and the time has not come to raise it," Gen. Masoud Jazayeri said in comments posted Saturday on the Guard's website, sepahnews.com.

    Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/nation...a23-5322-9168-6e837d40bad2.html#ixzz1iJjxrqBf

    So it seems again that our media has lied to everyone about this newest "problem" they have come up with to keep us occupied. I wonder why the media just can't get anything right any longer but just puts whatever lies and deciet out there for everyone to believe? :shrug:
     
  3. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    The American public would freak out.
     
  4. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    You will find yourself at war against Iran, and not just Iran, one day, I insure you that.
     
  5. keith1 Guest

    You can't insure anything. You hotheads have distracted yourself into oblivious drooling.
     
  6. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    I did not say, right now, or soon, I said one day for sure, and I didnt say who against who exactly, maybe not even USA, but the middle east is a hot area, where there is alot of tension.
     
  7. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Having talked online with a few Iranians, I get the impression that they are not very happy with their government, but they would defend their country with their lives if attacked. I kind of admire their passion.
     
  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I think Iran really doesn't have a large enough navy to do much against the 7th fleet, do you?


    In terms of major surface ships, Iran's three destroyers are over 50 years old and are kept in material reserve at Bushehr.[citation needed] The Iranian Navy does not include capital ships; their largest ships are five frigates and three corvettes, all of which are armed with modern anti-ship missiles. The main focus of the Iranian Navy seems to be developing new frigates, corvettes and medium to large fast boats capable of carrying modern precision anti-ship missiles.

    Three of five frigates (Vosper Mark 5), however, were commissioned over 25 years ago and these ships have been updated with Chinese C-802 missiles.Iran's three corvettes were commissioned over 30 years ago; one (the Hamzeh) was originally a government yacht but has now been equipped with Chinese C-802 missiles as well, but it is deployed at Anzali on the Caspian Sea.[citation needed] These eight ships are supported by three Russian SSK Kilo attack submarines and Ghadir and Nahang class mini submarines. The Russian built Kilo submarines are considered among the quietest diesel submarines in the world.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...p-GaAg&usg=AFQjCNG2Z_UVpBRCrFyIklExsdCiObgo1A
     
  9. pjdude1219 troaty mouth best song ever Valued Senior Member

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    as much as Israel wants us to no we are not going to war with Iran
     
  10. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Good point. I doubt Obama would let it happen. If it were up to the Republicans, we would be there now. I'm wondering about the additional sanctions--where are we on that?
     
  11. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Iran is a top 5 country when it comes to the size of it's Oil and Gas reserves. So the temptation is there for the West to invade if the opportunity presented itself.
    Just saying.
     
  12. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    It would be to hard to manage. I think we would be fighting the Iranians to the bitter end.
     
  13. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Why?
    We've just left Iraq and they have as much oil as Iran does.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves
     
  14. spidergoat alien lie form Valued Senior Member

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    Because oil makes it important strategically and economically. It gives them the power, for instance, to develop nuclear weapons.
     
  15. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    But it's not FOR the oil, which is clearly what wsionynw was implying with "the temptation is there".
     
  16. steampunk Registered Senior Member

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    I heard once that cia higher a propaganda journalist cheaper than an escort.
     
  17. steampunk Registered Senior Member

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    When the hunters of a tribe go out to hunt they are supposed to bring something back. I think Iran would bring horrible unnessecery loss to Americans. America does not have luxury for fruitless wars. They know we would drop nukes on them if they use it, so it would only be a defense. We have no worries. Hands off Iran. Lets trade with them. Take them in as business partners and get over this childish war tempertampering.
     
  18. pjdude1219 troaty mouth best song ever Valued Senior Member

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    oh not this tired fucking bullshit again. fuck the cia and most other reputable intelligence sources say the Iranians aren't pursuing nukes.
     
  19. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Who are your reputable sources?

    http://gulfnews.com/news/region/iran/tehran-pursuing-nuclear-weapons-39-1.960848

    http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2002/issue2/jv6n2a2.html

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29636.htm

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/R40094.pdf
     
  20. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    That has been the case for over 3 decades now. Both sides labor under various incentives to strike hostile poses, so look to more concrete questions of interest, capability and strategy if you want to guage the likelihood of war.

    Who is "they?"

    Iran will never block the Strait of Hormuz, short of some kind of doomsday scenario where the regime is being overthrown, because to do so would harm Iran much more than anyone else.

    Same things they've done in response to the last umpteen rounds of sanctions?

    Can you think of a single example wherein a country initiated a war in response to the imposition of sanctions?
     

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