Are the miracles in the Gospels true?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Saint, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,350
    Are the miracles in the Gospels true?
    The charismatic churches Christians always try to repeat the same miracles like divine healing,
    do you think it is possible?
     
  2. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  3. elte Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,253
    I'm not aware of it ever working.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2013
  4. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  5. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,350
    Pray and healed!
    Is that true?
     
  6. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  7. elte Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,253
    I would classify it as being akin to the placebo effect. People really do get positive benefits, but it is a psychosomatic effect. Basically, the comfort from thinking that we are being helped enables us to be more relaxed and at peace, which helps the body function better, and heal if necessary. I've thought that if it were real, there should be believers around who are way older than the oldest nonbeliever.
     
  8. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,350
    But if you pray for a sick baby who does not know anything, and if he get healed, what can u say?
     
  9. elte Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,253
    That the parents knew about the prayers and gave the baby better care, or that the baby would have gotten well anyway.
     
  10. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,516
    What about the many cases of those who relied on prayer alone to heal their children or themselves, and death resulted?
     
  11. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,350
    They would say this is God's will that the sick died.
    But if the sick was healed, they will sing halleluyah to praise God.
     
  12. elte Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,253
    It's a lot of wasted thought and activity.
     
  13. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,350
    If Christians claim that their God is effective to heal, why not they ask Discovery to do a documentary to witness it?
     
  14. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,516
    Of course they would. It's very convenient. You can't test God.

    Of course what opinion should we have of a God then who would do some of the things he does to newborn babies? What kind of higher motive needs to cause that kind of suffering?
     
  15. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,350
    Christians may say that God just wants to manifest his power and make people to believe in Jesus and be saved.
     
  16. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,516
    So he kills children to entice belief. That's pretty sick.
     
  17. elte Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,253
    How come it's not manifest then?
     
  18. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,516
    God seems very selective. His healings are always around believers, not skeptics. Not the best way to win over new converts.
     
  19. gmilam Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,690
    If one has trust in god's will, then why pray?
     
  20. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    51,740
    So basically, they will believe in God no matter what happens. And this is supposed to be convincing?
     
  21. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    51,740
    I can say that your incantations have no medical effect. One data point isn't statistical evidence of anything. This is why we need the scientific method to find out things. You need two groups of sick babies, the larger the better. Pray over one group and don't pray over the other. Then compare outcomes.

    In fact this prayer test has already been conducted, and no prayer effect was shown.
     
  22. Grumpy Curmudgeon of Lucidity Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,876
    No. They are superstitious non-sense tacked onto the story by believers in miracles and actually detract from the true teachings of a human called Jesus, where some wisdom can be found(though not everything he is said to have said is wise).

    Grumpy

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  23. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,826
    There is such a thing as bio-energy, it is within all of us, this is not just "brainwaves" or electrochemical interactions within the body. This is interaction of all beings on our planet between each other through a field. God is what we feel when we sense other beings around us and throughout entire universe.
     

Share This Page