Are Republicans Preparing to Militarize?

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  1. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    An American general who doesn't know what a communist is should maybe find other employment. Soldiers who don't know what they are fighting against don't know what they are fighting for. That's how we lost the Vietnam War - it's way past time to learn that lesson.
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Ah yes, the old right wing trick of ignoring every bit of information that doesn't fit your bias.

    That's one of the remarkable things about the media nowadays. A right winger (or a left winger) can find their own "news bubble" and ignore everything that disagrees with their biases. I find such an approach pretty limiting, and leads more to ignorance than enlightenment. But to each their own. If the opinions of others, or non-filtered facts, give you fits, then you would probably be better off in your own media bubble.
     
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  5. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    I think Obama was a socialist myself. His appeasement policies didn't work very well, and I'm trying to be polite when I say it. We should have learned about that from WWII. I'm old enough for the Viet Nam war and I was fortunate enough to miss the draft. That was during the cold war.

    Things have changed since the fall of the former Soviet Union, and they put North Korea in the nuclear arms race. What do you propose to do with crazy Kim Jong when he finally has the nuclear capability that he has an orgasm over? A war is inevitable unless somebody does something about it. Japan, South Korea, and Australia all want to be ready to defend themselves and the arms race is on. What do you suggest?
     
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  7. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, we know: but that kind of ignorant delusion should not be in command of US soldiers in combat.
    The winning general in Vietnam - he beat the French, the Cambodians, the Americans, and the Chinese, in combat - maybe said it best: A general would be better off leading soldiers into war without rifles than without understanding.
    I'm having a hard time finding a left wing news bubble. Have you seen one?
     
  8. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    This is my last post to you, and I am trying to do this for your benefit. Look at what you said, and put yourself in the other guy's shoes: Be honest enough to admit that you are talking down to me. You know nothing about me. You have no real name, and you are just an internet handle in the virtual world with no accountability, and handing out insults. I want no part of this behavior. You aren't providing any links to back up what you say either.

    If you think my assessment is wrong (and maybe it could be), then perhaps you should ask someone with a little empathy. I don't see much of it here, but why should I expect any? It's all fake. I hope that helps but I'd be surprised if it does, and hey I might even be wrong. You might be one of the nicest people on the planet, and I'll never know. That's how it works when you burn bridges.
     
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  9. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    Now that was truly funny. Start with the Communist News Network (CNN). They even hand out debate questions to the left-wing candidates before the debate starts.
     
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  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    He knows this:
    You're a familiar type, a dupe of the rich, a gullible parrot of garbage media feed.
    It's impossible for anyone who knows what they are talking about to talk to you without talking down, and pretty much everyone who knows what they are talking about will look like a liberal to you: so you will be surrounded by liberals talking down to you. That is a world of your own creation - you provide the labels, interpret the tone, display the ignorance that is all anyone sees, etc.

    If you want respect, here's a place to start: ask a lefty who watches TV news - a self identified, genuine, lefty - whether CNN is a leftwing news source. Wait until they quit laughing at the idea of Trump's biggest campaign advertising agency being "left wing", and answer. Then believe them - learn something.
     
  11. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    It's all a conspiracy huhh? Your extreme leftie is even worse off than I thought, in a world of his own imagining and denial.

    I can think for myself. Now I'd like to see if can you think for yourself. Please explain why CNN severed ties with Donna Brazille (former DNC chairperson). Now if you say there is no credible reference, then we have nothing but opinions to talk about, and if you are going to make statements like the last one then please tell me -- WHERE'S YOUR REFERENCE? Here are some of mine, if you want more, I can show plenty more:
    Washington Post
    NY Times
    Wikipedia
     
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  12. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    The Kool-aid is strong with this fellow...
     
  13. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    kittamaura sez so. must be right. Do you have anything intelligent to offer that backs your views? Perhaps an unbiased link or such. No. *Hint* Personal attacks don't count.
     
  14. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    SJWAL

    ....and they always project.

    The fact is normal middle of the road conservatives, who'd *GASP* like to pay less tax to a wasteful government so that they might have enough money to work towards private Christian charities, were attacked and beaten by Progressive Leftists (who are now attacking their own - as they always do). Let's see, one kid was sucker punched in the jaw for being a 'Nazi' (they don't even exist), another person was bashed in the head with a bike lock, Antifa famously shut down multiple free-speech events at a public Universit: Berkley (the irony) and there are even these pyschos who've literally formed a leftist cult called BAMN. It's an actual cult. A Social Marxist cult - that's insane.

    Anyway, this is the inevitable result of Authoritarian Statism. All that matters now is who can grab the power of the Government and use it to crush their opponents. In the end, it will mean the end of the USA. IMO anyway. It's the reason why the Framers wrote a constitution LIMITING government. Oh well, those days are long gone.
     
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  15. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    I think you're confused. CNN gave Hillary the free ride, not Trump, and one of their anchors admits it on the air. See for yourself. OOPS.

     
  16. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    No, you can't.
    I referred you to any actual lefty - and by that I meant, and said: self-identified, ideologically characterized, card-carrying fellow traveller of the American Left.

    Not a Democrat. Not a Wikipedia article. Not a randomly selected NYT columnist. An actual lefty. If you don't know any - and I suspect that may be the case - I can refer you to a list of bloggers and so forth, but gathering information like that is probably out of your range; much better if you find one on your own.
    I watched it happen. It was kind of fascinating how they couldn't keep that guy off their screen. They broadcast his speeches - and replayed them. They broadcast his interviews - and then replayed them. They broadcast his rallies, sometimes in their entirety. When he wasn't on their screen, they were talking about him - always with a "bothsides" approach that never included an actual hardnosed leftwing critic of his campaign or the Republican Party.

    At one point Trump was a little late to a rally, and CNN broadcast many minutes of prime time live footage of an empty podium on a stage in a hall in North Dakota. I haven't seen that kind of sycophancy even in sports - baseball rain delays even in the World Series cut away to some kind of show or moving image of some kind. It would have been humiliating, if they'd had any self respect left.

    And actually paying attention like that saves me from depending on what one of their worthless talking heads says they "think", as you apparently do - without the slightest sign of embarrassment. You apparently think that's evidence, or something.

    And all of this is by the way - the question is whether the Republican Party is actually going to - as threatened - form some kind of paramilitary Party security force. No word on what color the shirts are going to be. If you recall - you don't, because people like Naomi Klein barely exist in your bubble - that was one of the half dozen predicted bad signs to watch for, indicating that Trump was going to do this, that the country had lost its grip and the era of Constitutional democracy was coming to an end.

    So: thoughts?
     
  17. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    ¿What, Really?

    Since you missed it the first time, I shall repeat.

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    Are Republicans Preparing to Militarize?

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    You know, the title really should be a stupid question.

    Multnomah County GOP chair James Buchal, however, told the Guardian that recent street protests had prompted Portland Republicans to consider alternatives to “abandoning the public square”.

    “I am sort of evolving to the point where I think that it is appropriate for Republicans to continue to go out there,” he said. “And if they need to have a security force protecting them, that’s an appropriate thing too.”

    Asked if this meant Republicans making their own security arrangements rather than relying on city or state police, Buchal said: “Yeah. And there are these people arising, like the Oath Keepers and the Three Percenters.”

    Asked if he was considering such groups as security providers, Buchal said: “Yeah. We’re thinking about that. Because there are now belligerent, unstable people who are convinced that Republicans are like Nazis.”


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    Then again, these are Republicans.
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    Wilson, Jason. "Portland Republican says party should use militia groups after racial attack". The Guardian. 29 May 2017. TheGuardian.com. 29 May 2017. http://bit.ly/2qudLNJ

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    Are you capable of discussing the potential militarization of the Republican Party, or do you still need us to talk about something else?
     
  18. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    No, I prefer not to waste my breath on brainwashed fools such as yourself that cannot be bothered with facts and figures nor logic and reason. I am sorry you are so indoctrinated, but cest la vie, such is life I guess.

    I guess you and your MAGA buddies won't be happy until Fehurur Trump drives away every US Ally and leaves us alone with the sharks waiting to circle in for the kill... The entertaining thing is that you think our military can protect us - here's a free tidbit - there are far easier ways to cripple and ultimately dismantle America than military force.
     
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  19. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Exhibit A: Trump Derangement Syndrom

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    This IS the Left. They're nuts. They've completely lost touch with reality. Of course, this sort of makes sense, most have been force fed 12 years of left-leaning Government 'Education', which many have followed up with another 4 - 6 years of left-leaning Social Marxism, add to this a Central Bank that makes money selling bonds on the unborn (so that crooked politicians can promise people free-sh*t, like 'education') and then bails out the most crooked banking criminals in history.

    We're seeing the end result of 100 years of Progressive policies finally doing to our society, what it has done to every single society in history. Gutting what remains of prosperity. Eviscerating the culture that created that prosperity. It's all come down to a game of who get's control over the militant arm of the State. You know, because we have to threaten and beat society, for the good of society. Right back to the caves we go....
     
  20. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    *snrk* ah, the caboose of the crazy train has arrived I see

    The only ones gutting things are the GOP - but I guess even when they start coming for you, y'all will be all to happy since it "stuck it to the liberals".

    What a fucking pathetic lot you are, unable or unwilling to see the truth even as the rats pillage your nests and sell you out. Oh well.
     
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  21. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    I'm uncertain whether to call it comfort, but take what you will from the sight of conservatives panicking.
     
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  22. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Eventually even the dumbest of rats realize that the ship is sinking... With any luck, in this case, it won't be until it's too late to avoid being drug to the depths with it.
     
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  23. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    #cowardice | #WhatTheyVotedFor

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    Yeah, but in the meantime, this potent cocktail of antisocial tendency and crippling ignorance doesn't really bode well for anyone.

    And in a way, well, aren't we helping these irredeemable abettors do their job? I don't recall how many times I actually came right out and said that it seemed conservatives really, really wanted an armed revolt but couldn't bring themselves to do it, because, you know, they're patriots and all that, so they spent a lot of time trying to imagine ways to revolt while bawling they had no choice. I don't know, a few times, at least.

    And now that they're in power, it would seem conservatives are still looking for an excuse.

    Given that consideration, we need not wonder why our conservative neighbors would rather talk about anything else under the sun. Even Russia.

    How is this conservative cowardice news?
     

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