Are Chimps smarter than Monkeys?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by WANDERER, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I reject 1 & 3, so no need to answer.
    2, ethics.
     
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  3. WANDERER Banned Banned

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    Morphological grounds as opposed to what, moralistic or cultural grounds?

    Is anyone hear proposing a mind/body dichotomy?
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Why don't you just say it out loud ?
     
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  7. WANDERER Banned Banned

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    Then you are a culturally indoctrinated hypocrite and a coward.

    You reject what you fear points to something socially uncomfortable and ethics is what sheep use to feel safe within the herd.
     
  8. WANDERER Banned Banned

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    Why don't you admit it?
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I can't admit anything if I don't know what this is about exactly..

    Come on, say what you want to say.. then I'll agree or disagree.
     
  10. Gustav Banned Banned

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    why?
    i see questions and quest for rational answers
    motives are irrelevant at this time

    can you dig that?
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I think you misunderstood pal..
    I say the premises in 1 & 3 are wrong, thus probably agreeing with you on those points.
     
  12. WANDERER Banned Banned

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    Answer the questions.

    You are attempting to inject a cultural uproar based on a culturally determined and defined moralistic perspective with no merit or intelelctual integrity at all.

    Describe how species are produced or how intelligence evolves at all.
    Answer the questions.
     
  13. Bells Staff Member

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    I would assume we are able to seek answers to all questions with some degree of civility.
     
  14. Gustav Banned Banned

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    ask me

    /pissing in pants as we speak
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    In what context ?
    And why don't you describe it ? You want to make a point, not me..
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Why don't you use diapers ?

    Did you mean that question ?
     
  17. WANDERER Banned Banned

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    Let's see:

    What produces multiplicity and all the variations of life if the environment has only a cosmetic effect on populations.
    Here your selective reasoning admits that environmental conditions effect an organisms evolution, both physically and mentally, except....EXCEPT, when it comes to humans, in which case the effects are superficial. :wtf:
     
  18. Gustav Banned Banned

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    enmos

    stop fucking beating around the bush
    stop fucking pissing in your pants

    what point do you think this thread is trying to establish?
    answer!!
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It does not only have a cosmetic effect, I already said that. That's why I disagreed.. sigh.

    No, I did not. Environmental conditions can affect either of those.
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I thought you was pissing your pants, I have no such problems.

    Why should I make up what this thread is about, isn't it the job of the OP to make that apparent ?

    And why aren't you answering questions yourself, or are you just here to be an ass ?
     
  21. WANDERER Banned Banned

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    Huh?

    In which case, a mans look exposes his essence, his entire past, as it has evolved, responding and being affected by environmental conditions, and passed onto the next generation.


    So, where do you disagree, on moralistic grounds?


    Is truth and reality subordinate to ethics and human social environments with their own necessities and mythologies?

    Does a more challenging environment nurture intellect and or any mutation which offers an advantage?
     
  22. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No, it doesn't have to be.
    Maybe only the looks have changed because of the environment, or maybe only the intelligence was affected.
    It is not all or nothing.

    Huh ? Do you have a reading disability ? I am AGREEING with you on this.
    "Environmental conditions can affect either of those."

    I can't help it that you are confused by your own half-assed questions.

    In society ? Yes.
    Unless you want to be a pariah.

    It certainly could.

    Yes, if it gets the chance to spread.
     
  23. WANDERER Banned Banned

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    Then you, sir believe in a mind/body division.

    Appearance is essence.
    You assume that the environment only affects a part of the organism, in this case a distinct part since its appearance has nothing to do with its essence, whereas its mind does.
    You are a fool and a prejudiced, selective thinker.
    You've been socially and culturally conditioned to perform this feat of selective reasoning.

    You like the division because then you can selectively choose when the environment affects the body, which exposes itself completely and so is undeniable, and when it affects the mind, which is a manifestation of the brain by the way.


    There's no selection either.
    You can't pick and choose when it suits you to accept that the environment affects an organism superficially and when it does profoundly.

    What is intelligence and how does it evolve and why?

    An appearance is not separate from an essence, unless you want to believe in a soul or an absolute unchanging thing-in-itself or a God or a core or soemthing absurd like that.

    It's unfortunate when minds display their quality in such ways.
    Getting angry will not save you from your own simplicity.

    Ah, a sheep.
    I did smell the feces.

    In your simplicity you've compartmentalized existence into what is physical and what is mental.

    In this way you retain the delusion that we are all, all species included, part of a common core and so equal where it counts...down deep inside.

    You can't really answer my questions and so you try to degrade them, skirt around them or selectively understand them.
     

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