Any atheists here who were once believers?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by wegs, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know.

    I meant to add to my response above that in my opinion, a state of peace has nothing to do with our outward circumstances, rather it is a choice we make daily to seek peace despite them.
     
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  3. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Just an observation/question: why do some of you feel that you are an ''authority'' on how one should attain peace? No two people are alike, and what may be a suitable 'path' for one, might not be for another. (whether that path is religion/spirituality based or not)

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  5. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    It is their reasons for finding great pleasure in spirituality and religion that are not convincing.
     
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    LOL. No, the circuit boards are not exhibiting awareness, they are exhibiting added inductance.
     
  8. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Evolution.
     
  9. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Believers can't even explain what a soul is let alone attempt to show they have one. It's like saying your car has an alluvial damper.
     
  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    All that means is that you prefer to wallow in fantasy in order to escape reality, and that you really have no idea about religions.
     
  11. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Your post was based on the assumption that I presumed peace can only be attained through worship of God.

    Mazaula thought there great benefit can be derived by worshiping a higher power, seeing it as nourishing of the spirit. Then Balerion commented that we can get these benefits without such worship, to which you replied ''Simple yet so true?''
    I am interested to know why you regard his statement as true. I'm not saying that it can't be done.

    jan.
     
  12. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    So, what you're essentially admitting here is that you have no idea what any other religion says about their gods and that because you only know a little bit about Christianity, you make the assumption that all religions must view and describe their gods exactly the same way as Christians.
     
  13. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    No Jan, their are a great many gods purported to exist, not just yours. Of course, we understand you are compelled to state there is only on god, but that is exactly what all monotheists state about their gods, even if you don't want them to or actually know they do.
     
  14. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, but that is something that can't even be asserted by anyone, by definition, yet you and other believers will make the assertion without any idea as to what you're asserting and where you would get such an idea. That's called dishonesty.

    Of course it does, Jan, to anyone who is incapable of thinking it through.
     
  15. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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  16. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Logically there can only be one ''God'' (note the upper-case 'g').
    That you don't wish to accept this, even as a characteristic of a fictional character, is not going to change that.

    jan.
     
  17. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Not true, atheists understand it is a false hope, a delusion, an escape from reality.

    No, it is not a reason, it is a threat to be feared, which means the believer has not yet used reason and rational to understand the benefits to not behaving in ways detrimental to themselves and others, and will therefore easily rationalize such behavior when it suits their agenda.

    History has already shown that to be totally wrong in so many ways. Our current societies suffer as a result, plagued with problems as a result of indoctrinated beliefs.

    LOL. That is just silly.

    Hilarious, notice that the believer is compelled to fabricate hatred in order to defend his unfounded position.

    In other words, it promises delusions, lies and fantasy.

    Sorry, but that has nothing to do with compassion.

    Yes, you have presented a very good reason as to why religions are so dangerous to mankind and societies. Well done.
     
  18. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Yes Jan, I understand you have no clue there are other religions besides yours and that you have no clue what their believers believe. Oddly enough, it is almost exactly what you believe, yet you still have no clue.

    Yes Jan, I understand you refuse to accept the fact there are other religions purporting the existence of their "one and only God" (note the upper-case 'g')

    Astounding ignorance you display, Jan.
     
  19. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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  20. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Indoctrination does not mean one adheres to a particular religion, but that they adhere to accepting irrational beliefs without question, hence they will accept conversion to another religion if that's what they accept to do.


    Of course, without the acceptance of belief without question, one will not accept or adhere to any religion.
     
  21. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, you're right, I think.
     
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  22. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    At the end of the day, you think as you wish, and I think as I wish. Nothing changes. So, why bother discussing the topic with one another any further? So...carry on...
     
  23. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    You're reading into my posts something that isn't there.

    Several posters here have proposed to know how to come to peace of mind - and to do so without religion. The religious path tends to be long and difficult. So when someone comes along and claims it's not necessary to take the religious path at all - then I'm all ears!

    Of course, I expect that those who claim that one doesn't need religion, in fact have something better to offer than religions do, which is why I provide some religious points and expect that the non-religious will have better things to offer.



    This is just your particular statement of faith. Your above statement can not be verified.
     

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