Antifa, BLM and SJWs vs White Nationalist, Battle of Charlottesville

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  1. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Simple question: have many people have Antifa killed?
     
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  3. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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  5. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    You know where you can shove your moral equivalency.

    “We would have been crushed like cockroaches if it were not for the anarchists and the antifascists… They saved our lives, actually. We would have been completely crushed, and I’ll never forget that.”

    Dr. Cornel West
     
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  7. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The obsession of the "both sides" crowd.

    Along with Evergreen College, whose entire enrollment would fit in the student ticket section of the football stadium at Texas A&M.

    Gotta go with Isis for the face bandanas (no girls or other short people, uniform color scheme) and the Trump crowd for the open firearm carry with horrible flag (they looked more capable, casually familiar).
     
  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    perspective matters
     
  9. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    If you aren't anti-fascist, what the fuck are you?
     
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    forget anti
    and think pro

    why waste your life being anti-anything?
     
  11. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Why waste 407,300 people fighting the Nazis?*

    * Actual statistics, US military deaths, WWII
     
  12. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    How many Nazis did we kill?
    wild guess
    less than 7% of the Germans that we killed were nazis.

    were the rest just collateral damage?
     
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  13. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Not enough, apparently.
     
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  14. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    War used to be very inefficient. It was quite tragic.
     
  15. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    And is increasingly visible. The "both sides" perspective, in particular, has turned belly up and gone rotten.
     
  16. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    The problem with your question is the presupposition of wasting one's life. As Noish-pa reminded, when asked, no less, when trouble comes looking, you answer. If someone asks, yes, I am anti-fascist, just as I am anti-tyranny in general. I similarly disdain populist assertions of revolutions I hope for, such as the communist revolution, in which case nobody has ever figured a way out of the dictatorship of the proletariat; I mean, you would have thought that hope was already dead in Venezuela, but, no, they managed to haul its corpse out for one more desecration, just to make the point.

    It's one thing when people seize the mantle of Anarchism for a black-masked vandal movement, but it's also my opinion that "antifa" only gets more powerful if we give it that manner of attention. Think of it this way: Every time the bigots asked, the gay had crept a little closer to each voter until that proximity was sufficient to turn the day. Now, match that with the proposition that, yeah, he's an asshole, but he's our asshole. We already know that human beings tend, when pressed to actually make the decision, to show sympathy toward their own. And, you know, sure, violence is bad, m'kay, but at the end of the day, when one side is fighting for authoritarianism, and the other side is fighting against authoritarianism, guess which assholes people are going to be glad are their assholes?

    And you know how we settle that? By not going there in the first place. This part isn't rocket surgery: Those who fear antifa should not ask people to decide so explicitly whether or not they're anti-fascist.
     
  17. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Something to think about when claiming not to have supported Trump and the Republicans, while dishing the bothsides slander that brought them to power.
     
  18. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    It is worse then that, new ones are being made every day, we have more and more uneducated whites, with no job prospects and no future, not even fathers, they have nothing to turn to but their equivalent of black gangs: white nationalist groups. Now while black gangs go about murdering each other for drugs and hoes, white nationalist murder people to murder people and if their numbers keep growing they will become an existential threat to the nation, and civilization its self.
     
  19. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Now that is a moment. How far have we fallen, and how quickly, that we find ourselves in a circumstance when a better way to do war is the enlightened position? That is to say, this is where the alt-right goes. The point about inefficiency is valid, and remains so in its present context compared to the utter futility of future warfare; I just haven't heard that part of the discussion for years.
     
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  20. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    war sux
    (been there, done that, didn't like it)

    ......................
    And now, a kid with a joystick controlling a drone from thousands of miles away could end any of us in a heartbeat.
     
  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The most significant opponent of foreign war in Trump's White House was its most significant instigator of civil and domestic violence, especially racial.

    So the struggle for choice of emphasis - police State or military State - has had its occasional moments of interest.

    The Generals just won one:
    http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2017/08/racist-president-fires-racist-hype-man.html
     
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  22. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Robert and Rebekah Mercer seem to have their work cut out for them. With Bannon freed from white house constraints could he become the lead man in defeating Jeff Flake?

    and then................
    on to eliminating more republicans who will not get on board the Trump express?

    Bannon huddles with the Mercers on Wednesday, on Thursday Trump dines with the Mercers(Bannon's $ backers), they chat, and the next day Bannon is out(or is he?)

    Coincidence?
     
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  23. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    So far, they can hardly complain.
    "More"?
    Bannon got on board the Trump Express. He was an engine, in that train.
     

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