Animal Pain and humane treatment

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  1. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Mod Note: This is a split thread from Boiling Crabs & Lobsters.


    Boiling animals alive is cruel.
    Killing crabs and lobsters immediately before cooking is very easy, and avoids unnecessary pain.
    Why not do it?
     
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  3. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    How do you easily kill them before boiling?
     
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  5. superstring01 Moderator

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    I'm not sure they have emotions or verifiable pain centers, which would negate the concept of "pleasure" and "pain". They are mostly stimulus and response.

    Besides, they are just big grasshoppers that live in the ocean. Call me evil, but I don't give a shit of bugs feel a little pain or not.

    ~String
     
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  7. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    A nice warm bath is hot enough to shut down many crab nervous systems.
     
  8. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    How the hell should I know.
    I can't afford lobster.
    I saw someone on the TV doing it.
    It involved a big pin.
     
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    Why not? And crabs and lobsters are not bugs.
     
  10. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Of course lobbies have feelings so don't boil them.
    You put them into a state of suspended animation before cooking... Put 'em in the fridge for a while. This shuts them down painlessly.
    Now, if you want them to taste their best, boiling is well down the list.
    Lightly grilled on the Barbie with a smear of fresh garlic and a dash of lime.
    Or sashimi... Yummo!
     
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  11. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Is string is wrong about lobsters being big grasshoppers?

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    Grasshopper

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    Lobster

    I may have got these the wrong way round.
    They just look so similar.
     
  12. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    what did you think emotions and pain centers are? Stimulus and response mechanism of course!

    Lobsters do scream when boiled alive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ei6RpZ9gSk
     
  13. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    Grasshoppers, Crabs, Lobster, etc. are all related as Arthropods, i.e. with hard exo-skeletons. Some people call em "bugs", which is a generic term for anything small and crawly (including slugs or worms, which are not arthropods.
     
  14. superstring01 Moderator

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    Everything with an exoskeleton is a "bug" to me.

    They are simplistic creatures, with a brain smaller than pea. Stimulus and response. Little more. No emotions. Just sex and food.

    Drop'em in a pot of boiling water and cook the buggers. Yum.

    ~String
     
  15. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    A plausible reason as of why they need to be boiled...alive?

    Humans suck.
     
  16. superstring01 Moderator

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    Yes, we suck for not caring about the non-existent pain that a emotion-less bug doesn't even feel while it gets boiled in water.

    ~String
     
  17. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    You mean..a tortoise is just a bug?
     
  18. superstring01 Moderator

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    Who said a tortoise was a bug? I was talking about crabs and lobsters.

    ~String
     
  19. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    It's doubtful that you would know what they feel and not. And the fact that you don't see it as important whether they feel pain or not, is rather astounding since it would mean a change in legislation in what concerns animal rights.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29915025/
     
  20. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    "Everything with an exoskeleton is a "bug" to me. "

    That's what you said, remember?
     
  21. superstring01 Moderator

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    Those findings, the ones you posted, are also very much in doubt

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6968620/ns/technology_and_science-science/

    I'll continue gorging myself on their boiled flesh until we know for sure!

    ~STring
     
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