An openly homosexual Imam visits Norway

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  1. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    Who'da thunk it I was unaware they even existed but apparently Imam Daayiee Abdullah is one of the 2 existing homosexual Imams on planet earth and he just visited Norway. From his Progressive Islams website.
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    I say this is encouraging what say you.

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    He looks like a guy you can talk to.
     
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  3. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    Just as long as you padlocked your fridge
     
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  5. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    This makes sense. Everything we in the West have went through, conservative Muslim nations are now entering only with the www and information, doing so much quicker. There will be backlash of course, as traditional values are superseded by what outwardly appear to be Western decadence (that's not really true) but, shouting incantations at the water isn't going to turn this tide back

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  7. Yosef Registered Senior Member

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    I don't think there are any people who would pray as he leads the prayer. He is not an Imam in my eyes. Not in the eyes of millions of Muslims either.
     
  8. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    can't we all just get along? for god's sake! we identify more with our religions, sexualities, nationalities, political parties, agendas, race, class, and so many other THINGS than we do with each other. WE'RE ALL PEOPLE, PEOPLE!
     
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    Le Republican très sheik!
     
  10. ejderha Exhausted Registered Senior Member

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    Stop talking on behalf of millions. There are gay groups in Muslim communities everywhere. They have imams. They live in secret to avoid fascists like you and the others.
     
  11. ejderha Exhausted Registered Senior Member

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    People are getting along more than people think. Because, it's again the same problem that people can't imagine other people -well, they being the other- can get along with exactly the same problems.
     
  12. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    Because you consider him less muslim or human than yourself?
     
  13. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    This is just such a funny picture

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  15. Yosef Registered Senior Member

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    I have not said that he is less human than me. You can see that if you re-read what I said. He is not going to lead prayer for most Muslims. A sinner of this type cannot do that. It is not me who dislikes a person engaging in that sort of activity, it is God. Even if the man has biological disposition to do that then he needs to understand that it can be a manner God is testing him by. He has to turn away from that God forbids.
     
  16. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    everyone is a sinner yosef. everyone, even you, and even imams. for example, you hold yourself in higher regard then others, judge people, condemn people, and find 87 reasons a day to disassociate and/or hate people, and that is a sin. :shrug:
     
  17. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    oh yes he does.
    if there were gay muslims everywhere they wouldn'tve had to live in secret.

    islam is very clear on its position from homosexuality.
    a homosexual imam ...is kind of an incoherent term.. it's like a patriotic traitor, an imam literally means religious leader, you can't be a religious leader if you're the least religious. or more like anti religious.
     
  18. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    It is you, not God. Palming off your psychiatric problems on your God is cowardice.
    There are gay Muslims everywhere. Gay men in the British upper class used to travel to Islamic countries partly to find sex partners - almost any Islamic country would do.

    Whether or not they actually live "in secret" I don't know - I have seen so many Muslims deny their existence that I think quite a bit of discretion must be common.
     
  19. Chipz Banned Banned

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    I'm glad Imam Abudabah speaks out -- I hope he survives long enough to prove there is gay people in Iran.

    iceaura, discretion is very common in Muslim countries -- not just for gays. Heterosexuals who are looking to engage in the more 'earthly delights' of simple dating or copulation have to make hidden their behavior.
     
  20. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    no we allow simple and complex dating.
    same with copulation.
    just as long as you're married.

    wanna date your mother? couple with your daughter or sister? marry your dog? make love with your cat? well sorry, such "earthly delights" are not on islam's menu..don't worry though, i'm sure atheism offers it

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  21. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    It's not forbidden according to Ayatollah Khomeni just strictly regulated.

    It is however illegal and punishable by law in the secular/atheist world

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  22. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    That's the point. If you want to enjoy those things and not go through the obligations and duties of marriage, including restrictions that often discriminate heavily against women (and can cause problems for the men too), then you have to keep it hidden, secret. When two consenting adults choose to have a relationship in whatever form they want it, why should it be anyone else's business?

    Do you know any atheists who married their cat, dog or mother? I can't seem to recall any off the top of my head. Atheistic societies tend to look down on deviant breeding habits anyhow, it's not good for the gene pool and not exactly fair on their deformed offspring either. On the other hand, I haven't seen religion stop people from doing some pretty twisted things, though.
     
  23. Chipz Banned Banned

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    Saudi Arabia sure doesn't.
     

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