An independent Jewish Only country in the US territory

Discussion in 'Politics' started by S.A.M., Feb 24, 2008.

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Would the US give land for a Jews Only country?

  1. I am American and I say Yes

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  2. I am American and I say No

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  3. I am American and I have some other opinion

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  4. I am not American and I say Yes

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  5. I am not American and I say No

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  6. I am not American and I have some other opinion

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  1. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Because Jews were persecuted in Europe, Palestinians must give up their livelihood to restore that of the Jews'? Give me a break. Oh, and any time you say something like "it was British land", you know you're completely out of it. The British controlled it temporarily (through force), but it was never their land.

    Considering the map I linked to shows 93% ownership of the land being Palestinian and public , I'd say they did lose a lot. Actually, you could go so far as saying they lost practically everything.
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Except none of those places disallow the natives from moving back.
     
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  5. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Then it's funny how, throughout history, Muslims have dealt with Jews much fairer than Christian Europe has.
     
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  7. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Which they can't use, for various reasons, including the fact that they literally can't, and because they would lose all international backing by doing so. If the US steps up for Israel after something like that......well, it shows what the US is.
     
  8. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    But that doesn't make it right, and that doesn't mean the Tibetians shouldn't fight back. In fact, that may be more reason to continue fighting.
     
  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    No, because Jews were persecuted in Europe, and then again in the their new homeland by the Arabs. The Arabs deserved to lose whatever land they had, due to their religious violence. It was Arab land in their minds only, a kind of Arabic manifest destiny. Tradition isn't everything.
     
  10. Heath Ledger Banned Banned

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    I think it's a good idea, since Jews need a place to live, too.
     
  11. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    OK, now even history is "Arabic manifest destiny"

    That's just it, spidergoat, you say "and then again in their new homeland" but it isn't their new homeland, it wasn't their new homeland. Saladin conquered Palestine, and Palestinians were displaced in 1948, that is a fact.


    I would think that fucking foreigners who displace natives moreso deserve violence than the natives who got displaced.
     
  12. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Jews are the new natives. It's their homeland now. Arabs were not displaced until they started a war. War has consequences.
     
  13. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Extremely wrong, because whether the Palestinians had started a war or not (or the Arabs), Palestinians would still have been displaced on the then newly found Israeli land.

    Then, again, by your logic the Palestinians CAN get their land back and become "the new natives"

    Oh wait, you probably view the Native Americans as terrorists for fighting back during the original settlement of the New World.....forgot.
     
  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The Palestinians would not necessarily have been displaced if they had not been violent.
     
  15. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    They would have to have lived under Israeli governing and therefore had a very real possibility of being displaced. I do understand why they did what they did.
     
  16. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    A Jewish Country wihtin America is the best choice by far. I don't care if they raise my taxes to do it. This will drasticly reduce terrorism, and save the American tax payers billions. At last, the Jews can leave in peace, instead of every surrounding nation wanting to kill them.
     
  17. angrybellsprout paultard since 2002 Registered Senior Member

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    send them to antartica, then the only competition to slaughter are penguins and argentina ...
     
  18. superstring01 Moderator

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    Like an Indian Nation, with casinos and alcohol-drinking out of paper bags!

    ~String
     
  19. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Why do you go back only that far and not the full sixty years? I'm no fan of Israel but they come by their paranoia honestly. What was it, less than one year after the establishment of Israel that virtually every Arab nation attacked them in unison?
    Thank you! Take the whole South!
    And the Europeans punished that good deed by giving them ALL the Jews.
    Uh... Palestine has changed hands so often during historical times that pretty much everybody has a halfway plausible claim to it. Phoenicians, Assyrians, ancient Israel, Rome, Byzantium, Caliph Omar, the Ottomans, the British and finally modern Israel. Come to think of it, have the Palestinians ever had an actual nation of their own or have they always been a subject people?
    Unfortunately that's how Americans think. It's been that way long enough now, just accept it as fact. Kind of like us and the Indians. We have no respect for any historical fact that happened before our grandparents' time.
    Exactly. With Barbra Streisand on stage.
     
  20. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    do you ever wonder what would have happened if the people making the vote back then could see what had happened now?

    Would they still have done it or would they have done something else
     
  21. superstring01 Moderator

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    Pah! I think that Celine Dion is the it girl in the casinos these days!

    Good question. I think that the USA-Britain would have still done the same thing, but Europe might not have gone for it... but then, I think the only ones who "mattered" 'round about the time of Israel's creation was USA-Britain (I mean, between the two, they accounted for more than half the world's GDP and more than have it's military power), so Israel would still have been born.

    ~String
     
  22. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It occurs to me that any Muslim still objecting to Israel is a hypocrite. Jews are fellow monotheists, with the same God, and if God dictates the outcome of events like wars, then God has proclaimed several times over that Israel should remain as it is. In fact, it should be seen by Muslims as especially prophetic, the Jews returning to their ancestral home and the sites of their ancient temples.
     
  23. 15ofthe19 35 year old virgin Registered Senior Member

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    Why does it have to be the U.S. to give up any land? Why not Canada? Why not France, or Germany? This is Europes baby. Let the EU sort it out.

    /meh, it's just not worth it.
    //hard to find meaning in such a ridiculous premise
     

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