An Alternative Approach to Gravity

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by RajeshTrivedi, Dec 1, 2017.

  1. RajeshTrivedi Valued Senior Member

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    In one of the different threads I had proposed an idea about PSMR (Progenitor State Matter & Radiation), the proposed hypothesis around PSMR is extremely simple in which I have suggested that gravity is variable and it is the stretching of PSMR, PSMR stretched beyond certain critical level produces mass and relaxation in stretched PSMR produces photonic radiation.

    This simple concept plausibly explains almost all the known and unknown (unresolved) observations from Strong Interaction to relativistic jets and eliminates Dark Matter and Dark Energy.

    While resolving I could theoretically conclude that it is not possible for a Neutron star to collapse and form a Black Hole. So this eliminated one of the possible routes of formation of a Black hole. Another route of formation of a BH is sudden dynamic collapse of a large mass star, analysis of this results into some kind of weird formation of trapped radiation inside the event horizon.

    So if the Black Hole has to go, then this Even Horizon needs to be broken. I have plausible explanation for this, I am trying to ascertain issues around it.

    But while thinking about this, one quite a funny (or not so funny) thought came to my mind. I expect some positive views here.

    ---The detection of GW has kind of given a real aspect to spacetime. The deflection was in the space, path difference was observed in the aLIGO interpherometer, suggesting it to be akin to space. So in GR if the gravity is curvature of spacetime, then what if there is no spacetime?

    During the formation of black hole, a stage would come when there is a possibility of no space between inner layers of the object, if there is no space, then why the gravity should not vanish?

    (This concept I have used in my PSMR, if there is no PSMR (empty space) between two objects, then gravity vanishes). This kind of situation would come if compression overcomes quark-quark bond (assuming that they are the fundamental particles)
     
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  3. RajeshTrivedi Valued Senior Member

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    In cosmology, there are few speculations about the origin of the universe as well as the future. As per Big Bang Cosmology the Universe originated from a point singularity and now expanding. Then there is steady state cosmology (by Hoyle etc), now sort of sidelined, which talks of steady state nature of the universe.

    Under proposed PSMR scheme, the universe is spreading like fire (not 'expanding' like in Big Bang Cosmology wherein the gap between galaxies/clusters increasing due to stretch of intervening spacetime). As more and more matter forms from the PSMR, the stretch continues to build up and covers more and more un-stretched PSMR. The total energy (stretch + matter) remains zero.
     
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  5. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Hi Rajesh.
    Thanks for posting your ideas and although I find them interesting I can't understand your PSMR.
    I wish I could but its beyond me.
    Alex
     
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  7. RajeshTrivedi Valued Senior Member

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    No, its not beyond anybody, it is extremely simple. What is intuitively beyond us is stretching of spacetime or space, what is beyond us is the concept of Dark Energy which is causing the accelerated stretching of spacetime. Under PSMR proposition Dark Energy is not required, because the universe is spreading not stretching.

    let me throw some light (pun not intended),
    We all are ok with the concept of dark matter, something which interacts gravitationally but not electromagnetically. Fundamentally I have tweaked it a bit, for argument sake you can say that PSMR is The Dark Matter which is capable of stretching. And furthermore stretched PSMR does not interact gravitationally, it is the gravity. The stretch in the PSMR is the cause behind the gravity.

    Moreover, this PSMR stretched beyond certain limit produces lump (matter mass) and any relaxation caused in the stretched PSMR produces radiation.

    This simple concept I have tried to apply to all the observations, and I have found that it is capable of explaining all of them plausibly. In fact it eliminates formation of BH through neutron star mass accretion, but in case if any object due to some real catastrophic event gets beneath its event horizon, then also it has a way to come out. This is the only aspect which is a bit tricky and leads to vanishing of gravity in the innermost part of such object. Why not?
     
  8. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I don't like dark matter or dark energy so good luck get rid of it.

    Good luck with the small details.

    By way of encouragement I must tell you that a chap on the astronomy forum I belong to discovered a galaxy.
    No one could think such was possible ...and now there are papers written about it..apparently it is figuring in work on dark matter.

    I worked out gravity, took me years, in the bush time to think but ignorant of any science other than how it related to my astronomy..but it turned out Le Sage had the same ideas in 1745. Push gravity where gravity occurs via a shadowing effect ...you probably know about it.
    Discredited around 100 years ago ...it needs a sort of ether and of course SR got rid of it ...the ether.

    To find out someone beat me to the idea actually made me happy because I did not have to think about it anymore.
    It was long after that that I became informed about GR.
    Some will day folk like us, thinking about possibilities and unqualified for the job are nutters...and we may be but thinking is fun...and some folk will critise but at least you are having a go..in my book that is admirable.

    Your run at cosmoquest was not bad considering how tuff they are...you could not win but you fought well.

    Its like that saying which you may have heard..this better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all...

    You could think of writing a book maybe...I thought of writing a book but I saw one in the shop for $5 so I thought..hang it I will just buy one.

    Alex
     
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  9. RajeshTrivedi Valued Senior Member

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    The PSMR was not discussed at cosmoquest.
    There also those guys could not figure out that when an object is just at EH, the inner fractions are out of their respective EHs. You see how NotEinstein is struggling to prove me wrong on this, no success yet, only some vague unrealistic profiles he is suggesting.
     
  10. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I followed the thread, my comment I should have qualified better as general encouragement.
    Alex
     
  11. RajeshTrivedi Valued Senior Member

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    The present efforts are to find out the cause of gravity as emanating from the object. In this hypothesis, gravity is not something intrinsic to the object, it is the stretch in the surrounding PSMR which got created when the mass was forming.

    Stretch is more intuitive then the warping of the spacetime. The GR does not explain how the spacetime got curved, but this proposal clearly explains how the PSMR (or space) got stretched.

    The analogy of curving of fabric of spacetime with the mass is also non intuitive, but the stretching is a simple classical Physics mechanism, which is easy to comprehend and does not require any non intuitive visualization of 4D structure.
     
  12. Goldtop Registered Member

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    Wouldn't that then make gravity a property of space rather than matter?
     
  13. RajeshTrivedi Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, very true. The gravity is the property of PSMR (the space). Higher the stretch in PSMR higher the gravity, and the stretch in the PSMR is caused at the time of formation of matter.

    Incidentally even in GR, the gravity is not the property of matter, it is the change in the geometry of the spacetime due to mass, in this hypo gravity is due to stretch in the space (PSMR). There is maximum gravity between quark-quark bond which naturally falls to prevalent level even beyond hydrogen atom.
     
  14. RajeshTrivedi Valued Senior Member

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    1. The concept of "stretching" of spacetime is already there in the Big Bang Cosmology (BBC). What causes this stretch of spacetime? We have no clue.
    2. The concept of dark matter is also introduced in BBC, we know that it interacts gravitationally but not electromagnetically. We will never find this dark matter, because actually this dark matter is proposed stretched PSMR, which by definition is gravity and not some EM interacting matter. So no need to hypothesize about some elusive dark matter.
     
  15. Goldtop Registered Member

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    I'm a little confused, first you say gravity is a property of space, then you say it's due to mass?

    If gravity is a property of space, would that mean space can't be quantized?
     

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