An admiration for genocide

Discussion in 'History' started by S.A.M., Aug 2, 2008.

  1. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    that has absolutely nothing to do with the acts commited.irrelevant,irrelevant and stupid.
     
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  3. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    because they are so manly. All that power...its hot!
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You think an obedience to authority even to the extent of torture is not an indicator of how genocide or torture works? Strange, most people in social psychology quote the Milgram as a seminal experiment in these fields.

    Do you think two countries being bombed for 5-7 years on ridiculous premises of spreading democracy is a small group of people? How is that different from Russia spreading communism or Hitler spreading an Aryan nation? One million people is considered genocide. I think we have passed that in both countries. Not that anyone is keeping an accurate count.

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  7. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    strange,you're a moron and you are trying to skip around my point which was..........the holocaust and the war and terror are not the same thing.
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I think one million dead people, not counting the deaths from sanctions and the two Gulf Wars is a genocide. You're free to disagree.
     
  9. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    genocide

    NOUN:

    The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.




    stop being stupid
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    It was systematic and planned. The war was based on lies and Bush had talked about the Iraq invasion long before. The American people were just too stupid to see it. But the UN sanctions that the US pushed through which changed the primary health problem in Iraqi children from overweight to death by starvation and preventable disease was systematic, deliberate and planned. The large embassy in Iraq, the desire for 50? permanent bases, the fact that both US presidents do not want to leave immediately and will find a way to stay there permanently, is systematic planned and deliberate.

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  11. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    the war was planned,the deaths of innocent civilians were not.

    stop being a retard
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You mean they were carpet bombing villages spontaneously?

    But of course, one can always blame the "insurgents" with their superior military prowess.

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  13. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    are you honestly saying you think the us government plans to exterminate the arab race?and that there first step in this is to try to install a democracy in iraq?
     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You guys are worse than the Germans. Wtf do you think the Americans are doing there?

    US media view:

    Locals:

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0519-07.htm

    Who do you believe?
     
  15. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    answer the question.are you honestly saying you think the us government plans to exterminate the arab race?
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    They definitely plan to exterminate a lot of Iraqis [and Afghanis]. Thats a whole national group. They are killing locals men, women and children and labeling them as insurgents. The permanent military bases are practically a declaration of intent .

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  17. superstring01 Moderator

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    The war deaths are debatable. Bush being a war criminal is debatable. The Iraq war being "genocide" is not. Whatever has been done in Iraq, it doesn't even vaguely qualify as genocide either by intent or result. Calling it "genocide" muddies the waters and diminishes what genocide truly is and further distracts away from what is happening (good and bad) because people inherently smell the desperation in the label, become number to it, and begin to ignore it.

    It's like crying wolf. You call something genocide so often and when it finally does happen, nobody listens.

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  18. superstring01 Moderator

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    So, the intent of the US mission in Iraq and Afghanistan is to sterilize the surface of all inhabitants?

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  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    One million people being killed and fake insurgents being used as a shield is genocide, its no different from a dictator creating fake enemies to kill people.

    Absolutely. That was their aim going in and they've doggedly kept at it, like the cluster bombs they were so eager to send to Lebanon, the birth pangs of the Middle East, as it were. As the 50+ bases show, they've settled in for the long term.
     
  20. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Yeaaaah, sure. Let me know when they start the ovens, ok?
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    al Qaim.
     
  22. superstring01 Moderator

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    Just checking. I wanted to gear you total bizzaro-world stupidity in judging the situation.

    So, just to be clear, every last human being being annihilated is the secret goal of the United State's government? Besides your bloated and politically slanted statistics, um, where's your proof. Or is this more of your hyperbole that everybody is supposed to accept on your honor (you know, the honor of the passionate liar who's seen and done pretty much everything in current history)?

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  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    How many hundred thousand did they get there?

    Farhud.
     

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