No, it is not. You are behaving like a petulant teenager, by baiting me and appealing to the mob. The issue I was responding to there was whether the IOUs will be repaid, without any considerations about purchasing power and comparisons of paying in to paying out. That latter stuff was all added by you later with your poll baiting tactic. And as I've already remarked there, that consideration is stilted because it depends on life expectancy, and moreover misconstrues a welfare transfer payment system as an investment vehicle. The subject we are discussing is the solvency of Social Security, not the question of whether it makes a good investment vehicle for retirement savings. You seriously think that a poll at SciForums amounts to a legitimate scientific sample of public opinion on the solvency of Social Security? That's preposterous. Meanwhile, the basis for my observation that expectations of repayment of the SSTF vehicles is high, is the fact that such is the widespread opinion of experts on the subject. This, in turn, is based on the fact that the government is legally obliged to repay them, and that they are backed by the full faith and credit of the US government. The question is what the government will do to cover the costs - cut spending elsewhere, raise taxes, and/or borrow money from elsewhere. As usual, you are refusing outright to seriously analyze the financial situation and likely policy outcomes, and instead simply invoked your doomsday prophesy wherein the US has totally collapsed in the meantime. Which is to say that you have nothing to say here about Social Security. You're just exploiting the subject to repackage your moldy old fantasies of US economic ruin, apparently with the hope that some kind of ignorant popular fear of the future of Social Security will manifest itself and so validate your Chicken Little schtick. This is highly childish. If you want to see an example of a retirement benefit system that is rushing towards a brick wall, you should be looking at China. Especially the rural areas, which have been emptied of younger workers who would have traditionally supported the elderly. But the legacy of the one-child policy is going to have them upside-down on workers-to-retirees in short order, overall. No, it won't. That poll won't tell you anything of relevance to the issue, nor will it be scientific and statistically significant in the first place. I'll continue to listen to what the reputable experts have to say, and I suppose you'll continue with your inane antics and dishonorable tactics. Just understand that you aren't going to prove anything to me this way. Well, other than that you are not serious or intelligent, that is.