Americans Executed

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    NEWARK, New Jersey (CNN) -- An undocumented immigrant pleaded not guilty Friday to murder and related charges in the execution-style slayings of three college students in a schoolyard.
    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/10/schoolyard.killings/index.html


    Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily
    Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total
    U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan
    Posted: November 28, 2006

    WASHINGTON- Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53103
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Are they Iraqi illegal immigrants? I hear a 1000 of them are being killed every month by the illegal occupation of Iraq.
     
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  5. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    How many illegals vs how many citizens are killing people in the US? Do you have the numbers?
    Cuz I have a whole lot of links to citizens who have killed citizens. Heck, I bet I can find a whole bunch of links about citizens who have killed illegals.

    Oh, and I want every illegal out of this country. 50,000 green cards are given away every year for $39 in a lottery. Any spouse and any unmarried children (under 21) can come with the recipient. They will all get their own individual green cards.

    If you don't win one, you pay about $400. There are enough immigrants in this country that afford to send that much home for 1 green card. That brings over a whole family, LEGALLY
     
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  7. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    So ... is there an ethical, moral, or judicial concept to be explored here, or are we just expected to rip on illegal immigrants?

    Here, I'll start: If illegal immigrants are such a problem, there are two specific solutions, and a broader one as well.

    Specific solutions:

    • American employers should stop hiring illegal immigrants, thus removing a tremendous attractive force for illegal immigration.

    • American immigration policy should be restructured in such a manner that reflects our heritage and doesn't insist that immigrants remain disenfranchised and in poverty for so long.

    General solution:

    • Address poverty in the United States​
     
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    Or perhaps it was posted just to put things in perspective ...which most of the people at sciforums seem to lack.

    Like you, Tiassa, making such a major issue out of an accidental shooting of a little kid by an Oklahoma police officer ....while completely ignoring the thousands of other Americans who are intentionally murdered. Ditto for how people rail against the Iraqi war because of all the American troops being killed, yet can't seem to see that more people are killed in everyday life. Perspective.

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    Hey, I also think trying to help civilize the Iraqi people is a American waste of time and money.
     
  10. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, Sam doesn't think they can be civilized either!

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    Better solution:

    • Address poverty in Mexico
     
  12. draqon Banned Banned

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    Ultimate solution: install automatic machine guns along the border of United States, shooting down illegal immigrants (not killing them...paralyzing)
     
  13. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    like a tazer? If it was motion control we might be zapping coyotes, deer, bunnies.
     
  14. Willy Banned Banned

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    Just find one.
     
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  16. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Take it up with the Mexican government. And while you're at it, take it up with the Bush administration, who left former President Vicente Fox out in the cold on the issue because the White House decided invading Iraq was more important than protecting our immediate borders.
     
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    Well then, some perspective should be offered. I've already put my green hat on to eliminate one extraneous comment, but by your argument I'm thinking I should reconsider.

    In the meantime, I'm well aware that your perspective asserts that people in the public trust should have no obligation to that trust. It's part of the reason I don't find you credible.
     
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    ok than there will be a picture capturing camera which identifies objects as being animals or humans based on thermal sensors, pattern of movements, and shape in general.
     
  20. Willy Banned Banned

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    Our southern boarders would not need so much protection if the majority of Mexicans were not so violent and unintelligent.
     
  21. draqon Banned Banned

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    hey I just had an idea...

    pass a border intelligence exam with math, science, language, and history subjects..like calculus and physics...and than you can cross the border...

    nifty idea.

    than they will be cramming for exams in Mexico.
     
  22. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    you've obviously never seen a drunk canadian!
    damn your a mean angry person.
     
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