All Vaccines are contaminated !

Discussion in 'Conspiracies' started by river, Aug 21, 2018.

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  1. river

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    Nonsense

    Anyone can be quite capable of teaching themselves about anything . Which I have done .

    Vaccines and their contamination is nothing new , it has been going on for years .

    As far as water

    http://www.sci-news.com/physics/phase-transition-supercooled-water-05801.html

    As I have suggested before , there is more to water than just being a molecule of H2O
     
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  3. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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  5. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    Yet, it's clear you have failed in that regard, this thread is proof of that.

    So, you're here to tell us what we already know, but have little interest due to the fact it's rather irrelevant?

    Yet, that article does not support that claim. Do you understand that article? Can you tell me in your own words what it means?
     
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  7. river

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    Not now , no
     
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    An international team of researchers, led by Arizona State University chemist C. Austen Angell and University of Amsterdam’s Dr. Sander Woutersen, has observed one of the more intriguing properties predicted by water theoreticians — that, on sufficient supercooling and under specific conditions it will suddenly change from one liquid to a different one. The new liquid is still water but now it is of lower density and with a different arrangement of the hydrogen bonded molecules with stronger bonding that makes it a more viscous liquid. The results appear today in the journal Science.

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    For a substance that is ubiquitous on Earth, three quarters of our planet is covered with it, scientists can still be surprised by some of water’s properties. Image credit: Brisch27.

    The new phenomenon is a liquid-liquid phase transition, and until now it had only been seen in computer simulations of water models.

    The problem with observing this phenomenon directly in real water is that, shortly before the theory says it should happen, the real water suddenly crystallizes to ice. This has been called the ‘crystallization curtain’ and it held up progress in understanding water physics and water in biology for decades.

    “The domain between this crystallization temperature and the much lower temperature at which glassy water — formed by deposition of water molecules from the vapor — crystallizes during heating has been known as a ‘no-man’s land’,” Dr. Angell said.

    “We found a way to pull aside the ‘crystallization curtain’ just enough to see what happens behind — or more correctly, below — it.”

    Phase transitions of water are important to understand for a multitude of applications.

    For example, the well-known and destructive heaving of concrete roads and footpaths in winter is due to the phase transition from water to ice under the concrete.

    The phase transition between liquid states, described in the current work, has much in common with the transition to ice but it occurs at a much lower temperature, about minus 130 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 90 degrees Celsius), and only under supercooled conditions so it is likely to remain mostly a scientific curiosity for the foreseeable future.

    “A couple of years ago we were studying the thermal behavior of a special type of ‘ideal’ aqueous solution we had been using to explore the folding and unfolding of globular proteins,” Dr. Angell said.

    “We wanted to observe these solutions’ ability to supercool and then vitrify.”

    “Seeking the limit to the glassy domain, we added extra water to enhance the probability of ice crystallization and found that instead of finally evolving heat as ice crystallized (leaving a residual unfrozen solution) as is normally found when cooling saline solutions, it actually gave off heat to form a new liquid phase.”

    The liquid was much more viscous, maybe even glassy. Furthermore, by reversing the direction of the temperature change, the authors found that they could transform the new phase back into the original solution before any ice would start to crystallize.

    “This observation raised considerable interest but there was no structural information to explain what was happening,” Dr. Angell noted.

    In the Science paper, the team has shown that the structures involved in the liquid-liquid transition have the same spectroscopic signatures — and the same hydrogen bonding patterns — as are seen in the two known glassy forms of ice produced by laborious alternative processes (high- and low-density amorphous solid phases of water).

    “The liquid-liquid transition we had found was now seen to be the ‘living analog’ of the change between two glassy states of pure water that had been reported in 1994, using pure pressure as the driving force,” Dr. Angell said.

    “Our results would seem to provide direct evidence for the existence of a liquid-liquid transition behind the ‘crystallization curtain’ in pure water,” Dr. Woutersen added.

    “The findings offer a general explanation for the thermodynamic anomalies of liquid water, and a validation for the ‘second critical point theory’ put forward by researchers to explain those anomalies.”

    “This behavior is almost unique among the myriad of known molecular liquids. Only a few other substances are thought to exhibit it, but none have been proven to date,” Dr. Angell concluded.
     
  9. river

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    That supports my thinking about water , water is more than H2O bonding .
     
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  10. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    No, it doesn't, not even remotely.

    I hope you see my point about not understanding what you question.
     
  11. river

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    I don't

    So fill me in .

    So how is the article not beyond just hydrogen-oxygen bonds ?
     
  12. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    How unfortunate.

    This was your original claim...

    The article talks about how scientists are trying to compare their predictions of what water would look like if it's temperature were lowered and it didn't turn to ice, first. So no, it doesn't support your claim.
     
  13. river

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    To your last statement , how so ?

    goldtop your comment ?
     
  14. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, I would suggest first looking up what temperature is and how it affects molecules. Then you may want to look up how water turns to ice.
     
  15. river

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    Yes you should
     
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  17. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    No thanks, I'm not really interested in doing your homework for you.
     
  18. river

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    Or really , your not interested in the article .
     
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  20. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Yeh

    I would choose---avoid.
     
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    Because there have been half a billion MMR vaccines given in the US since 1971. During that time, patients who got sick after the vaccine have been reported to a program called the VICP set up to investigate (and compensate if appropriate) people who get sick as a result of the virus. 35 of those reports were considered valid (i.e. were the result of a reaction to the MMR-V vaccination, and not due to something completely unrelated.) Of those, there was 1 death.

    So you have a 500 million to 1 chance of dying as a result of the MMR vaccine. Compare that to 700 to 1 odds from dying from measles.
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Ah, so that article is "concerning." Let's look at what it claims:

    "there’s the instance of John Sanders, whose baby died a day after receiving eight vaccines in one day. Despite the fact that he had reached out to people about concerns over the baby’s post-vaccination vomiting and rashes, he was essentially ignored. In fact, authorities actually questioned Sanders, basically accusing him of playing a role in his own baby’s death. Did it even matter that his baby’s medical records were found to contain errors? Apparently not. Sanders was given a life sentence in jail."

    Let's look at what the medical examiner said about that case:

    "Sanders' preliminary hearing began last week with testimony from Ingham County Medical Examiner Joyce DeJong, who performed an autopsy on Ja'Nayjah.
    DeJong testified the infant died from severe head injuries after suffering blunt force trauma to the head which caused bleeding in her brain."

    So now you think that the vaccine beat her to death? Or perhaps it was all that DHMO.

    Your mind is so open your brains have fallen out.
     
  23. Kittamaru Suppose it makes sense. Wearing a bit thin. Valued Senior Member

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    *whistles softly*

    Just... just damn...
     
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