All Powerful and All Knowing

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  1. thinking Banned Banned

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    inotherwords god makes mistakes

    so god has become Human , makes mistakes
     
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  3. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    And ALL-KNOWING USB drive has nothing to to "think" about. All-Knowing USB drives do not have desires or any other emotions as they only exist in one state: ALL-KNOWING
     
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  5. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    hence the un- in unconditioned.

    IOW conditioned life lays claim to some issues that require absolute control.
     
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  7. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Even a 1GB flashdrive has nothing to think about, namely because it has no values, objectives, etc

    Just because an entity has recourse to being all knowing it does not mean that they have no pending value systems. For instance, some aspects of knowledge might be considered more pertinent than others. This would in turn reflect on how they organized their environment.
     
  8. thinking Banned Banned

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    and clearly more than god can handle
     
  9. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Its not clear how, where or when we became classified as absolutely unmanageable.
     
  10. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    That will probably coincide with the same day the idea of God went public. A sad, sad, terrible day.:bawl:
     
  11. thinking Banned Banned

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    eve and adam perhaps as a starting point

    at least biblicaly
     
  12. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Love it or loathe it, the idea of god is very much public (despite the bitter wranglings of ex-christians in their examination of remote amazonian tribes)
     
  13. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    even biblicaly speaking, they weren't managed?
     
  14. thinking Banned Banned

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    they were

    think about it , god said do as I say
     
  15. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    Never thought you would ever write that God is an idea.

    Of course this gets my guard up once again. Who am I dealing with here, Ferdinand Waldo Demara?
     
  16. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    hence the suggestion that they are not unconditioned characters
     
  17. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    If you offered an example of how to discuss a particular thing without calling upon ideas perhaps I could follow your lead .....

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  18. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    Nice try!!! All powerful and knowing is an idea....discuss it as an idea, not a given. Since God is the same then it is only pertinent that you do the right thing....admit that one cannot personally know an idea, nor can one claim a secondary idea about the same thing as factual.
     
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    hence though the wrath of god because of their actions

    managed
     
  20. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    hehe

    as if sci and its great reservoirs of laurel - residing arm - chairafarians ever had recourse to an alternative ...

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    "idea" is pertinent to the first base of any knowledge based claim (aka theory).

    "idea" is not sufficient to incorporate all that a knowledge entails (aka practice)

    "idea" does however return for an appearance later on (aka conclusion/realization), but this is directly in relation to an object/experience.
     
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  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    sure

    force is but one means of management, called upon, to various degrees, by buffalo herders, school teachers and prison wardens.

    In fact its impossible to conceive of any entity that is recognized as bearing some sort of order on the world around them that doesn't have recourse to force.

    An absence of force (in one's scope for recourse) does not indicate a good "manager".

    An absence of force indicates an absence of managers.
     
  22. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    One of the smoothest attempts ever made to wriggle off a hook. Well done! Congrats....it'll keep the God drive alive. Spare me the details of your experience, oh wait!. you already do.

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    Storytime:

    Two early homo sapiens are sitting in their cave contemplating a problem. It seems they are having trouble dragging home food fast enough, avoiding scavengers along the way, lose a few kinfolk or just plain fatigue setting in.

    All of a sudden Ook gets up, runs out the mouth of the cave, kills a goat and places it on a pile of stones all the while mumbling some mumbo-jumbo about a sky being. Oog, the other thinker asks what's up and Ook answers that there must be a God that can help them with their problem so he was only trying to evoke a favorable response by sacrificing little Billy Goat Gruff. Oog goes back to the cave and the next day invents the wheel.

    Both these actions(God and wheel) were the result of ideas. Of the two, which one was more realistic, practical and testable? Would it be right to conclude Oog's wheel idea came about because of Ook's god idea? IOW, would the experience (wheel invention following God idea) be enough to conclude God exists in the sky, likes sacrifices and bestows favors to those who believe and honor Him?
     
  23. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    just as well

    a discussion that cries foul at the mere introduction of "idea" would certainly be mystifying

    Your local doctor, car mechanic and particle physicist probably display a similar mercy



    Perhaps the issues of practice that surround wheel manufacture do not have a bearing on the practices that surround being knowledgeable of god

    (IOW small wonder that your cave man god idea has problems at the conclusion stage)

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