Age of Consent Laws

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Charles_Wong, Dec 11, 2006.

  1. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    If someone is below the legal age of consent, nothing they can say or do should change that legal status. Without a change in the legal status, there is no change in your availible options. So if she is illegal, shes illegal, period. It's not her responsibility to protect you from self incrimination when she is illegal, it's your responsibility to protect yourself from her, and protect her from incriminating you. If she actually is in love, she'll just have to wait, and will be willing to do so.

    Whats the rush? Lust is usually in a rush, love takes time.
     
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  3. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    Why should it be higher for boys?
    That is sexist.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Different rates of maturation.
     
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  7. Charles_Wong Registered Senior Member

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    It appears that no member of this forum is "morally outraged" over the "child-molestation/statutory rape/child pornography" situation that has occured in the above movie and then regularly aired on American movie channels. I believe this serves as evidence that a double-standard does exist when it comes to age-of-consent laws.

    In fact, according to popular mythology, the above victim-child should now be severely psychologically damaged from the above sexual relations. I would find it interesting if that child, who now is in his forties, was greatly tested to see if he is mentally healthy or living in an insane asylum due to the under-18 sexual activity with people 18-or over.
     
  8. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Without posting the quotes from the previous several posts, I will say that you all seem to be paragons of morality, virtue, and restraint, clearly always letting your cool intellects guide your every move.

    I applaud you all.

    Charles wong,

    There does indeed seem to be a double standard for girls vs boys. There is definitely a reason for this. Boys apparently can make the judgement of what is and is not appropriate for them at a certain age while girls are, of course, will-less puppets of boys. This seems to confirm what we already know, yes?

    Can anyone spot the sarcasm in this post? Points will be awarded.
     
  9. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    The reality of the situation is this.

    Boys/men are dominant. Our history is one of almost complete domination of females by males, barring a few rare exceptions.

    There is a need to regulate males behavior toward females at every age in order to have a just and equitable society. The problem as I see it is the tacit assumption that girls are unable to make decisions about their own behaviors and feelings prior to a certain age, but boys are.

    We all know that there are many "girls" who at say 14 or 15 are more mature than their 20 something counterparts.

    The issue at hand is really the level of horror to which we have elevated the "crime" of an older male engaging in sex with a willing younger female. We assume it is always coersion. That the male has always taken advantage of the female. I would guess that this is less true than most of you coolly intellectual vessels of virtue suspect.

    Your joyful physical mutilation of a male for having sex with a 15 year old girl he loves (doubt his sanity/judgement all you will) in contrast to the penalties you would levee for lesser crimes, like murder, is a sure sign of cultural conditioning.

    Set an age limit below which consensual sex is forbidden, no matter what the age ratio. I suggest 14 based on personal observation. Beyond that... parents control many aspects of their children's life.

    Or... leave it at 18 and be done with it. Make it universal. Make the penalty as harsh as you wish. I think the torture of castration is a fine start. I think that sam, being a muslim, would agree.

    Hands to be chopped off for stealing. Eyes to be gouged out for oogling a younger girl. Nuts hacked off for bedding a girl of 17. Disemboweling for repeat offenders.

    It's so simple and non-confusing that way.
     
  10. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    No thats extreme. You should regulate the males that need regulation, not just assume all males are dominators. Regulate domination, and create a dominance tax.
     
  11. Charles_Wong Registered Senior Member

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    So much subjectivity here with the word "dominance." First, being dominant at anything cannot be proven to be "immorall" or "moral" in an absolute sense: science cannot prove or disprove moral claims.

    Now, natural abilities, whether individually or ethnic based or gender based, create differences in life outcomes. So if you are saying that you want to set up laws so that life outcomes are 100% equal for every single human organism, then you are supporting pure Marxism/Communism. But, that is fine if that is what political system you happen to support. I don't support it though.

    For example, females dominate in the ability to grow babies. So how can we equalize this between men and women? Perhaps we can add a tax to the women's income for each offspring she gives birth to.

    Or what about women being dominant in clerical abilities over men? Perhaps another tax for that, or affirmative action for males in the area of clerical jobs. Or perhaps we can issue prison time for females that are doing better than males in whatever area. True Marxism/Communism. But again, if this is what you like, then it's what you like: I'm not going to proclaim any absolute moral proclamation that Marxism is "evil": it's a purely subjective matter. I personally don't have an affinity for Marxist policy: i'm politically moderate.

    A Marxist would also need to incorporate affirmative action for White athletes since most sports are dominated by Africans.
     
  12. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    You know, I really like that idea! Those who want to push themselves on the rest of us should have to pay a steep tax for the privilege. Males who exhibit agressive dominant behavior - tax the crap out of them!
     
  13. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i get the feeling that the reason you are against mandatory consent laws is because you spent too much time ogling your daughters girlfriends.
     
  14. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    I take you don't enjoy the "scenery" at the local high school football and basketball games, huh, Leopold? ...all those tight little bodies flaunting their "wares" all over the place for all to see and ....yes, to oogle? You don't like those shows??? Huh?? Tell the truth, now, okay?

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  15. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i never said any such thing baron.
    there's a difference between looking and wanting to bust someones cherry.
     
  16. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Hmm? I don't know about that, Leopold! Whenever a male admires a female, there's almost always something sexual on his mind. And in fact, that's precisely why the girls show us so much of their cute, tight little bodies!!

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    I think we can all lie to others about it, perhaps even lie to ourselves, but....?

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  17. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    1) Learn to read. I'm not against mandatory consent laws. Just not at 18 and with penalties stiffer than for most murderers.

    2) Yes, I've oogled a number of them. And "things" have happened (legal, of course, but not in my best judgement. When a really attractive 18 year old throws herself at you... Oh I forgot. You're all paragons of virtue. Sorry.)

    3) Leo, the implication being that you would never "oogle" one of your daughter's teenage friends (if you had any daughter's that is) makes you either a liar, a homosexual, or a blind 78year old in a hospital bed. Which is it?
     
  18. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Why bother lying? I very much engoy the sight of an especially attractive young woman in full bloom.

    After all, I'm an atheistic hedonist and therfore the epitome of evil. Eh. Whatever.
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Supe your implication that all men are carried away by hot teenagers is pretty disturbing.
     
  20. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    The truth and reality is often disturbing to most intellectual idealists!

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  21. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Sam, your naievete that (at least sometimes) they aren't is just as disturbing. And by carried away do you mean lovestruck or just lusty?

    Sort of like the old masturbation taboo. All healthy men masturbate. Get over it. My opininions are shared by every male I've ever had this type of conversation with.

    Sam, you may be a multicultural world travelling guru, but you have nothing on me in terms of interpersonal and human life experience.
     
  22. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    well you are wrong baron.
    it all depends on how you were raised i guess.


    sorry.
    so you are for mandatory laws but unsure of the age?
    a line had to be drawn. 18 just happens to be it

    i've had girls and women "throw" themselves at me.
    i remember this one 15 year old . . .
    i can say i've had the willpower to resist.

    i'm neither a liar, homosexual, or a blind 78 year old.
    i don't go around thinking "i wanna fuck that", that doesn't mean i don't look or i don't find them gorgeous.

    it all boils down to wanting to be the first dick inside that pussy.
     
  23. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Truth.
     

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