Afterlife Communication Machine

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by davidelkins, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. river

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    Because mechanical is for the most part peoples mindset .
     
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  3. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Debate??

    Seriously?

    More like

    Believers
    I think there are strange happenings which I can not explain

    Sceptics
    OK come back when you can explain

    Here endith the debate

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  5. river

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    Explaination would it matter ?
     
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  7. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Nope

    Just tell everybody who is listening strange things happen which you can't explain and everybody will happily go on their way

    IF IF IF however you wish to have people believe in said strange happenings explanations would be a good place to start

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  8. river

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    Read anything on the afterlife .
     
  9. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    The afterlife (also referred to as life after death or the hereafter) is the concept of a world, or the world itself (whether physical or transcendental), in which an essential part of an individual's identity or consciousness continues to exist after the death of the body. According to various ideas about the afterlife, the essential aspect of the individual that lives on after death may be some partial element, or the entire soul or spirit, of an individual, which carries with it and may confer personal identity or, on the contrary, may not, as in Indian nirvana. Belief in an afterlife, which may be naturalistic or supernatural, is in contrast to the belief in oblivion after death.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterlife

    OK

    Done that

    Now what?

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  10. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Many religious traditions (my own, in fact) do not posit an afterlife, and counsel members of the congregation to try and act with a sense of morality in THIS existence, NOW, and not to expect or anticipate a reward of a better life, no matter how much they sin or treat others badly in this one.

    The Catholic church lost a lot of followers over "indulgences", when Martin Luther took them to task for profiteering its congregation by promoting the spelendor of an afterlife of which they had no ownership or authority, or even the ear of their creator.

    For the religious traditions that do have an afterlife myth, it is held up as example or a reward to the pious or orthodox in exchange for living a life that is moral and ethical, according some preset standard or ideal. It's a superstition. It's all superstition. If you don't have proof of any of it, it just might be because nothing is there; it doesn't exist.

    Religion and superstition is a business science wants nothing to do with. Ask your religious leadership to build you your afterlife communications network. If they are rich enough from conning other followers, they will either do it for you, or else set up a prayer chain.

    Science eventually will be able to clone you, maybe even give you all of your former memories back, intact. Is that afterlife enough? How would you or your clone know, even if it wasn't? What is it you think makes you believe that you are so special to your creator, that he or she would prepare or reserve a place in an idyllic afterlife for you or others like you? Maybe the universe isn't about you. If you succeed in communicating with anyone in the afterlife, by all means, ask them about it.

    Did you know, a cerrtain messiah needed to go back in time to save the souls of Adam and Eve, so that we could all meet them in the afterlife? What drivel. Santa and the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy, too. If you think it will help, be sure and pray to them each night before falling asleep. If you are very fortunate, the aftelife will be something very much like that. Whether anyone left on this Earth misses or remembers you or not is entirely up to you. If that's not enough motivation for you do be a moral person, tough cookies. It's more than enough for me. What is your problem?

    Thanks for posting this in pseudoscience. It's a great example.
     
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  11. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    You had me up until the last sentence

    I feel you are wrong here

    ALL of the Universe IS about me

    I didn't know anything about the Universe before I was born

    And I didn't know much about it for some years after

    Now while my claim that the Universe is all about me may seem grandiose

    I extend the same respect to every other person in that the Universe is all about them

    The Universe is big enough that apart from collectively it is ALL about us as individuals (shades of we are all born equal)

    there are enough pockets of interest we can each engage in without stepping on another's patch

    I also accept that when I die the Universe will cease to exist

    FOR ME

    While I am compos mentis I also accept that after my death the Universe will continue to exist for others

    After I am dead and on the way to becoming compost deadost

    I not only won't give a damn about

    you others and the Universe I won't be able to

    I'm dead

    Summing up

    Alive - Universe ALL about me

    Dead - all about you lot

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  12. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't say the universe wasn't about you, Michael, mainly because it most certainly is. I only meant, it isn't about ME.

    Sorry for not clarifying that.
     
  13. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Got you

    But you should be selfish to the degree the Universe is about you

    Claim your part and defend it

    Be fair and let others claim a part also

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  14. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks, but no. I'm certain, it isn't about me. I'm sure of it. Don't care.
     
  15. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    So instead of a piece you move around a board, use a photon generator where the photon can be moved towards one of two photon detectors. Photons have virtually no mass, so a spirit should be able to influence it, right?
     
  16. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    An Afterlife Communication Machine is about as useful as a Shoe Store for bigfoots (bigfeet?)
     
  17. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Bigfoots ✓

    I would have gone for Anacondas

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