Abuse of Power by Kittamaru

Discussion in 'SF Open Government' started by The God, Aug 21, 2017.

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  1. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    All bans are handled by the forum software based on the number of active infraction points - moderators actually cannot (to my knowledge) issue bans directly, except using the "spam" function, which is only available on user accounts less than, I believe, a week old.
     
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  3. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    If you can't say anything good about a person do not say anything.
    So I will have to say that The God is a consummate troll. He has managed to post over 3,400 anti-science, insulting and condescending posts designed only to inflame people and yet he is still here. He has done a spectacular job of trolling Sciforums for (well look at this) exactly 2 years....Bravo!

    3 days is nothing for The God, he will come back refreshed and ready to go.
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    This thread is about Kitt's reason for infracting you. It is not an opportunity for you to re-open your case from the contentious thread in question, from which you have been banned.

    You were not infracted because of the topic of discussion itself; you were infracted for your disrespectful, abusive behavior toward other members, including utterly off-topic shots at both Kitt and JamesR.
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Really?? Do I understand this correctly - that Mods cannot ban members (except by issuing infractions) ?

    That explains a lot. So it's not the Mods having too light a touch with vexatious members (as I suspect many have thought, including me) - it's the software, which is controlled by the owners. Is that right?
     
  8. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    We could circumvent the ban pattern by issuing additional points, I believe - though there has been some strangeness with the system in that regard (sometimes bans don't appear to initiate at the right time, though that could just be me misremembering the points levels required). We DO have the option of issuing a permanent ban (basically, lumping a hundred or more points set never to expire) - however, no, we cannot directly, via administrative control panel, ban a member. Moderators are also incapable of removing infraction points once issued (that is something only administrators can do, to my knowledge).
     
  9. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I think James R was properly going to give me ban one time but just gave me an infraction instead.
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    At the risk of derailing this thread - while I've seen you bomb threads with irreverent comments, I don't recall you ever disrupting or attempting to divert a thread.
     
  11. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    How often do the owners show up to do maintenance? Can administrators modify the database or access the core code? There are many things broken here, like some folks can't add or change avatars or signature lines, but others can. What's up with that?

    I know you guys don't get paid, but sometimes the shit gets a little too deep.
     
  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    My understanding is that is outside their scope, permissions and skillset.
    I've mentioned some minor buggy issues with display, and even provided CSS solutions, but was told there's nothing that can be done.
     
  13. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    We (moderators) have no access to the back end whatsoever. I don't know if James has access to the control panel functions, but I don't believe he has access to the database itself (eg, via SQL or whatever language we use)
     
  14. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Is it my imagination or has this thread just recently become more civil??

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  15. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I'd think an administrator would insta-ban a sock.
     
  16. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    If we can prove it is a sockpuppet, Moderators can do that - we can use the "spam" function on the account, if it was recently created. If not, best we have is to issue the 100+ point infraction to issue the permanent ban.

    Problem is, if we are wrong, well... we have no way to undo it until an Administrator happens along

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  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Which raises the obvious question: just how disruptive does a member have to be before their liability outweighs their benefit?
     
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  18. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    As it should be. If there's some problem to solve or a goal to be achieved, people tend to quit entertaining themselves with "banter" and get it done.
     
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    How do the mods decide the number infraction points to issue?
     
  21. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Typically depends on the severity of the infraction - a "warning" can be issued at 0 points, a typical infraction is 10 or so, and repeat offenders can see that ramp higher as/if needed. There is often discussion in the back room among one another if there is question about it.
     
  22. The God Valued Senior Member

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    This is bad, very bad attempt by you to silence others, and within minutes you banned me.

    You can do anything to defend your stand, that is continued abuse of Power.

    I will respond on that thread with DaveC, Origin, mine and Sarkus posts in quote. You will see what Sarkus wrote (correct initial conditions for escape which I was emphasizing) and what your troll friends wrote.
     
  23. The God Valued Senior Member

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    Bold is mine in Sarkus and my post. Both of us are talking about the initial conditions wherein speed of entry > escape velocity at that moment. If a body enters with speed higher than escape velocity and an angle not leading to strike then only it will escape. Where is the inaccuracy, Kittamaru? You have miserably trolled me and abused your power.


    Now, as I have been saying it all boils down to initial conditions, all examples like apollo fuel burning or third body assist or any other force is just to create the suitable capture conditions. In fact the configuration of 3-body capture (2 bodies capturing a third body) as being pushed by your friends is most unstable with a huge possibility of ejection of the lighter of the pre existing 2-bodies. Well that is too complicated for your friends.


    I am giving you link Kittamaru, try reading it....Prof H B Perets is an authority on this subject, do not let your troll friends to come and say that this is an arXiv paper...


    They are two body getting in orbit without stellar host, thanks to initial conditions.
     
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