Aboriginal child abuse and the NT Intervention

No cherie. That would be you.

"Our Aborigines"? What are they? Like your pets or something?

Do you think you own them?

Realities of life. You may want to paint a picture perfect world of happy Dreamtime stories, but the actual reality is far different. Their life is hell and yes some do destroy houses - some do smear shit up the walls, as do some white Australians and people from other cultures as well. Is that a problem for you to accept that such indivduals exist? Are you denying that violence does not exist in the culture?

You are aware that the ferals who live around Nimbin are white? Yes?

No?

And you claim to be Australian? Everyone knows the ferals around the Nimbin area are whites who decide to go feral and quite literally shit in the woods and wipe with leaves.

I stated I had African heritage. I also have Dutch and French heritage. I am actually not from Africa. Why did you make the assumption that I was an African from Africa? Again, proves your racism Brian.

This made me laugh. Out loud!

Gustav, are you telling me you have not told our resident bigot the actual truth?

Gusgus, he thinks I'm spookz..

Who said there's anything to be scared of? I'd be happier driving through an Indigenous community than driving through Beenleigh at night.

Then you obviously have never spent any time in those countries. The economic disparity between "their own natives" and the European culture is great. To claim they do not acknowledge that and the issues that exist within said cultures is a lie. I have been a resident and citizen of this country since 1980, probably for longer than you have been alive. I have also been involved in human rights work and organisations for nearly 20 years now, much of it dealing directly with Indigenous issues. Your attempts to portray or state that it's all hunky dory again emphasises your own racism. Your attempts to deny what Elders in such communities say and have been consistently reported on - even in the report that triggered the "Intervention" in the NT again points to your racism.

Just as your referring to them as "our Natives" is racist. They are not yours anything. They are a people who are not owned by others.

And your referring to them as "boongs" and covered in flies and snot is what exactly?

No one is denying theft of their land or the mistreatment Brian. No one.

Why don't we Gustav. Do you think it is acceptable to beat tweens with sticks until their bones break as punishment? What about a woman who killed her abuser? Does she deserve to be beaten until she is hospitalised?

A former lecturer of mine now works as a legal advocate for Aboriginal rights in the justice system. He is part Aboriginal and he is against tribal law because of its brutality and because it denies individuals any rights that would be recognised under the guise of human rights laws.

Supporters of tribal law do not recognise that the laws themselves have to advance. Their response to calls to modernise or even end tribal law punishments is to use the 'death's in custody' argument. A valid one as far as I am concerned. Those who have died in custody have usually been individuals who have committed suicide because of the cultural clash that came with imprisonment. So the alternative is a ritualistic beating that results in broken bones and being speared with a spear in the leg - utterly brutal - and then the individual may end up being expelled from the tribe and cut off entirely from family.. Which is even more devastating and which does lead to repeated offences and jail sentences, by which time the individual is more prone to the dangers of suicide. It is a nasty cycle.

Tribal law was seen as a way to try to lessen the over representation of Aboriginals in incarceration. But at what cost? Personally I'd go for weeding out the racists in the police forces around the State and cultural education programs and having Indigenous police officers and cultural awareness officers to deal with the issues of over-representation in the justice system.

So what is the solution Gustav? You know, since you are all knowing and all?

Should we ask Brian, who says that 'his full blooded Aborigines are not scary'?

 

Actually no. Realities of life where there is extreme poverty and anger Brian.

I live about 1 hour away from there Brian. There are the hippies and ferals.

Depends on where you go. But there are ferals and they call themselves ferals and are referred to as ferals.

I also call white, yellow, green people who rent houses and smear fecal matter up the walls and destroy the houses, feral.

Just as you consider yourself to be superior to the African?

Having been taught by and worked closely with Aboriginals, I would have to say they are superior to me.

Yes Brian. As I said. This was a set up planned from 2008. I created accounts there in 2008, just to set you up and get you with it in 2010. I really did. Wait until you see what I have set up for you in 2015.

That's how much you factor into my life Brian! I have to say though, 2015 will be minor compared to 2018. Just promise me you'll still be posting here in July 2018. Promise me Brian!

And Spookz is very much still a poster on this forum and he is participating in this thread. And I can assure you, he is laughing at your stupidity.

So you are a racist and into age discrimination?

Excellent.

Dumbarse, the whole plight of the Aboriginals is a social atrocity. Or did that little fact pass you by?

We are all spookz gusgus..

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We are also 1 of Wes.

Remember that?

But something you should keep in mind cherie, I always use capital letters at the beginning of my sentences. You do not. Eek.. A clue perhaps?

 

Incest and child abuse occurs in all societies. Poverty makes the realities of life more harsh.

Which brings me to another point that I forgot to mention earlier:

"If I can prove you set up multiple accounts and get admin to give me you I.P address I can email the admin on that forum and explain the situation and get them to identify which account you are there, and take it from there, we will see."​

Which implies you know the administrators and trust them and they trust you enough to provide you with the IP addresses of any other member on that forum.

I am amused!

Keep trying bigot. One day you might just get it.

It is spooky just how much laws are distinctly racist, isn't it?

Spooky I say!

 

You missed my point. Administrators will rarely ever give out IP addresses of their members without that person's consent unless the situation warrants it. Since I am not a member of that forum.. Well you get where I am going with this?

That forum is open to the public in that anyone who is not a member can read all the posts there and use the search function. Their security measure is very weak since I could search for posts made by individual posters even if you're not a member. All that was required was to type in the image verification. I would suggest, if you do PM their Admin in your bid to see if I am a member there (considering you accused me of posting under your name there.. I guess you could try and be lame and join on a second account as "Bells"... which would be easily verified since your join date shows up in your posts)..

Now it is your contention that I apparently joined there under your name since 2008 (since that's when you first joined) and posted all these racist things under your name to set you up .. ??

And then, to make matters worse for you, you then accused me of being Spookz.. The member formerly known as Spookz is posting in this thread and, well, to give you a hint, he's a member you've been spending half your time sucking up to in this thread.


But you do that. Tell me how you go.


I shall now call you a dumbarse.. again.

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Then go right ahead.

You have my consent..

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That's nothing unique. Iron Age cultures (and Industrial Age cultures and now Information Age cultures) always react that way when they encounter a people who are a Paradigm Shift (or two, or three) behind them. The Iron Age Christian Europeans regarded the Aztecs and Incas as nearly subhuman, even though they had actually built civilizations and progressed into the Bronze Age; the Aztecs even had written language. They were much harsher in North America when they met the Neolithic tribes who were just starting to link their agricultural villages into trading networks, the first step toward civilization. People who were still in the Paleolithic Era--small clans of hunter-gatherers who had not yet invented agriculture--were regarded, often literally, as "animals".

People tend to be very smug about being members of civilization. They never stop to realize that unless their ancestors were Romans, Greeks, Indians, Chinese, Egyptians, etc., they were merely "barbarians" who had been conquered by one of those civilizations and forced to assimilate, just as the Native Americans, Australians, Maori, etc. were.

I'll estimate that a fair percentage of the people who are reading this are only a couple of dozen generations removed from ancestors who were regarded as "primitive" and played the role of the Aborigines to someone who was playing the role of the English.

The majority of my ancestors were conquered in their Bronze Age and assimilated into the Roman Empire.