Abiogenesis is the Scientific God

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  1. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    as a matter of fact i did read the post you made about the speculation about how life could have formed.
     
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  3. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    In fact I didn't. Origin of life scientists did. And they recreated the corresponding step in the laboratory. Exactly what you demand.

    Still you keep moaning about ...oh...my experience...oh i don't believe it so it must not be true.

    You are on the same level as a creationist.

    Disbelief counts for nothing in science. Especially if you coudn't even be arsed to look up what scientists are actually doing in this field of research or what they done.
     
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  5. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    not according to the post you made.
    "what we propose" is not the same as "we have recreated"

    when i see something substantive then i'll believe.

    and you think "proposal" means "proof"

    according to what you posted all they've done is said "this is how it happened".
     
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  7. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Please fuck off to a religion forum if you care about beliefs.
     
  8. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    a complete lack of evidence for abiogenesis really fucks you up doesn't it spurious?
     
  9. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Not really. Anyone who isn't a complete moron can see that there is a [ENC]shitload[/ENC] of scientific work out there on this topic.

    What pisses me off is that someone who has no scientific knowledge whatsoever keeps claiming his beliefs are shithot and have more merit than the whole body of knowledge generated by science or the opinion of scientists working on the topic.

    a fool. that is what you are. And insistence on being a fool is not something to be proud of.
     
  10. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    you mean a shitload of EXPLANATIONS.

    i've made no such claims spurious.
    i HAVE claimed that abiogenesis cannot be recreated in the lab.
    so far no one has been able to disprove my claim.

    you should know better than to resort to such tactics.
     
  11. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    so what? make a retarded claim and guess what. Nobody can refute a retarded claim.
     
  12. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    there is nothing retarded about it spurious.
    science claims that abiogenesis is the way we got here.
    they cannot prove those claims.
    in short they are liars.

    is that what you find retarded?

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    what really kills me about this whole deal is that they refuse, absolutely refuse, to entertain any other theory.
    that's what i call close minded.
    what do you call it spurious?
     
  13. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    from answers.com:
    a·bi·o·gen·e·sis (ā'bī-ō-jĕn'ĭ-sĭs) pronunciation
    n.

    The supposed development of living organisms from nonliving matter. Also called autogenesis, spontaneous generation.

    pay careful attention to the word "supposed".

    i guess now answers.com is a religious wacko publication.
     
  14. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    whatever.

    You are back on ignore.

    goodbye. Have fun in bible studies.
     
  15. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    my creditors: you owe us 5 million dollars.
    me: wait, you gotta give me more time to win the lottery.
     
  16. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i do not hear your demands for proof, therefor they don't exist.

    jesus christ spurious i thought you had more guts than that.
     
  17. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    That is exactly what we are talking about. Life is a complex system, and we need to understand not only how the system arose, but how the components in the system came into being.
    The research referred to by myself, Spurious and others, addresses certain components, and certain stages in the emergence of the system. You are stubbornly refusing to acknowledge, or accept this.
    Why?
     
  18. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    According to many religious believers, and especially by proponents of Intelligent Design, there can't be any scientific explanation for the beginning of life. Fortunately scientists aren't listening to such nonsense and are actively engaged in an effort to discover how life began. They've made a lot of progress in recent decades and we have every reason to think that progress will continue.
    http://atheism.about.com/b/a/248899.htm

    keep in mind that scientist said that they would crack the origins of life within 10 years of the miller-urey experiment. said experiment took place in 1953.

    i especially like the hypocrisy of the following:
    oh but it is based on faith, faith that life has a natural explanation.
     
  19. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    no offense ophiolite but take your RESEARCH and cram it where the sun don't shine.
     
  20. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i am sick to death of people passing research and implying that it's proof of what is being discussed.

    ophiolite,
    about odds, i could care less if the odds against life was 100 billion gazillion raised to to a google. what matters is CAN IT BE DUPLICATED?
     
  21. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    As you wish, but I do take offense and now place you on Ignore.


    Gosh, that's a lot better. This thread makes some sense now.
     
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  22. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    ah yes, the objectivety of the brainless insane.
    either believe in evolution or we will ignore you.
     
  23. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    the last gasp of the handicapped.
    fine debating tactic you have there ophiolite.
     
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