A world without Israel

Discussion in 'World Events' started by El_Diablo666, Dec 17, 2006.

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  1. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    In those countries the indigenous people arent going around blowing themselves up in crowded shopping malls are they ? What the Native American/Canadian , Aborigine and Maori want is economic equality with the others , they arent calling for any evictions . However when Israel was formed it had to be done at the expense of dispossessing an entire nation by en masse expulsion of Palestinians .
    You said it , the Chosen People and their divinely gifted sliver of land 1948 Purim Fest .
    Yeah and just to reinforce that 1 million Palestinians had to be murdered in order to safeguard the Jewish only state .
    $3 Trillion it has cost the American tax payer and not a word of thanks ingrateful bastards .
     
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  3. Redefine91 I piss excellence Registered Senior Member

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    You do realize we give financial aid to many other countries. And they usually don't pay it back. And we usually just say its all good.


    I do recall some olympic athletes being killed in Munich. A surprise war on Israel on yom kippur. And a totally unprovoked attack on israel by iraq during the gulf war

    both sides do their fair share of killings, but Israel has more attacks with understandable motives than arabs do. and more of them are out self defense.


    And Israels reason for invading Lebanon? To protect it's northern borders from terrorist attacks. Attacks coming from lebanon. Thos ingrateful bastards had the GAUL to invade a country that had been cowardly attacking its villages and cities.
     
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  5. Redefine91 I piss excellence Registered Senior Member

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    Oh yes and remember Israel and hamas' little skirmish over the summer?


    Take a guess who started it. I'll give you a hint. It was unprovoked. Seems to be the initiators trademark
     
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  7. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    A world without Muslims would be a nicer place.

    Why is that a positive thing?

    We do?

    Riiight... Isreal goes away an so does balalalalalala *kablooie*? Doubt it. Suicide bombing is a result of Islam not being able to adapt to reality.

    There is no such thing as objective owenership and subjective ownership can only be maintained if there is force backing it. Israelis are the current owner of the land.

    The reason the mideast doesn't like the west is because Islam is jealous that the west is technologically, financially, etc. superior to the east. This jealousy spawns from the belief that Muslims are supposed to be the superior ones.

    'Arabs' could have been spending their time improving what they had and instead choose to focus their efforts on anexing Israel. That's pretty damn retarded.

    I think you're a victim of a Meme and don't even realize it.
     
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  9. Sandoz Girl Named Sandoz Registered Senior Member

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    Please die.
     
  10. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    Is this the face of America in the 21th century? im from Israel, and i really hope the us would stop giving us money and weapons.
    during the 70 and 80 Israel tried to build its own jets, but the American government was afraid of this because the prototype was cheap and better then the expensive f15 so they shut the project down. now this bastards come here wining why you pay us your tax payers money. i say, live us and let us built are own military(most of it we actually did).
     
  11. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    It won't happen for a long while yet as Israel's neighbors have too much of a vested interest in the conflict and Israel has a vested interest in having a homeland.
     
  12. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    Obviously there'd be no Arab-Israeli conflict without Israel. There'd also be no Arab-Israeli conflict without Arab states.

    How about a world without Britain and France? No colonisation and arbitrary borders in the middle east!

    A world with enlightened, modernised Muslims would be even better.
     
  13. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    a world without that barbaric religion called Islam is a much better place.
     
  14. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    That's a strange thing to say. Haven't you been following the news at all in recent months? The Arabs and the Muslims are their OWN worst enemies! Arabs and Muslims are killing Arabs and Muslims at an astounding rate.

    Eliminating one enemy of the Arabs and Muslims is like taking one drop of water out of the ocean ....it wouldn't mean shit!

    Baron Max
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    ...a sad statement on the inability of people to recognise the right of all human beings to exist without fear of persecution.
     
  16. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    The history of Israel is far more complex than you understand it, and besides you can't just eliminate a sovereign state, even if you think it might be more convenient. Wouldn't a better approach be to negotiate a solution for a Palestinian state?
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The creation of any state is accompanied by bloodshed.
    http://the-american-interest.com/contd/?p=577
     
  18. krakatoa scared! me? hummm? No,hihi. Registered Senior Member

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    You are absolutly wright about this. This is the real thing, that we have to realise. Krakatoa.

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  19. krakatoa scared! me? hummm? No,hihi. Registered Senior Member

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    Whow i did'nt know that, you know, i think, a lot of Country's depend on USA, because USA government want's it this way, probably my own country, depend in part of USA to. There is a lot to learn with forum like these, this is why i come here, we always learned something, from others. Krakatoa.

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  20. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    Bingo. Israel is very capable of taking care of itself, with the right government of course, not with that bunch of morons we have today who don't have the balls to come and say we don't need America tax payers money!
     
  21. El_Diablo666 The New World Order Has Begun. Registered Senior Member

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    Brian is right, actually

    Arabs didn't want jews wiped off the earth. In fact, before 1948, there weren't strong tensions between jews and americans and arabs. It is always Israel that provokes the violence, and then blames it on the Arabs after they caused it.
    The force the arabs to do what they do, so they are the blame.

    Also, we can't obviously give america and australia, etc, back to the owners cuz those owners weren't documented and therefore were't really there 'officially' as in, a true country. The west colonized it and therefore makes it theirs.
    Palestine has been documented for thousands of years, so that is a case in which you must give it back.
     
  22. El_Diablo666 The New World Order Has Begun. Registered Senior Member

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    I dont' think that a world without Jews would be a nicer place (even though those barbaric 'jews' are nasty, we still need them)
    Only Israelis.


    Unprovoked? let's say I went and stole your country, would you not retaliate? You're probably going to say 'blah blah blah, I wouldn't, blah blah blah', but if I stole New York from the USA, Americans would not sit around and allow that. Israel provokes them every time they call the land 'their land'.

    Arabs don't hate the west because of technology. Arabs are pretty modern in alot of areas except military technology, and even if there are areas that they aren't in, that wont' provoke a fight where they are CERTAIN they will lose. Do we see Thailand attacking America? They aren't modern, but do we see that? No, technology doesn't make people attack others. Do we see people from Kenya attack British? No, because both Britain and Kenya are sovereign, nice, well to do people.
    It is Israel that is the true cause.
    Please, you dont' have to believe me, but take a minute, right now, and think of what Arabs think, and of what they suffer, and of what the other side thinks that the West is an actual, evil, barbaric terrorist. The whole world is perspective, there is no fact when it comes to calling another a terrorist. I used to love Israel, and would be willing to die for it, until I saw that they are indeed wrong.
     
  23. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    from what shit hall did you came from?
     
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