"...a village on the Moon?"

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  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    How so? What in the list above isn't true?
    If we have a reason to to that, and can afford it - great. I'm all for that.
    Also great. No need to go to the Moon first if that's our goal. We've already been there.
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The point is that an eventual outpost and return to the Moon will give us the experience and research time to get used to and overcome the dangers of long term space travel.
    The Moon is our closest neighbour and is the best place to test out new skills and/or discoveries to take us further in space exploration.
    An asteroid landing is also on the cards and being discussed at NASA.
    There are many reasons, all valid to return to the Moon and establish an outpost. Afford it?? Like an eventual Mars landing, an established Moon base should be [and I'm sure will be] an International effort. And of course politics and economics are only variable components that change with time.
    I disagree. I'm sure it will be done first for the reasons stated.
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly. And if Spaniards had gone to Antarctica instead of America first, then they would have gathered invaluable experience with ocean-going travel that would have allowed them to overcome much of the danger that early explorers faced. (Keep in mind that the success rate of early voyages to America was only about 70%.)
    That would be great.
    It WAS done first. If there's a reason to go back, then we should go. If we want to go to Mars, we should go there.
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    At that time, Antarctica and the Great Southern Land [Australia] was virtually unknown.

    Sure its been done before, but for short periods of time, and political reasons and the "cock waving"contests that was inevitable at that time.
    Again, the point is we will return to the Moon and set up a base their for stated reasons, and I believe that's an inevitable occurrence.
    Just as an eventual Mars manned landing will in time eventuate.
    At this stage, that seems to be the way NASA in processing things, and it makes the most sense to me.

    Put it this way, If we can't set up a base on the Moon with sufficient protection and to gain the experience for the far more dangerous trip to Mars, then we have Buckley's chances about pulling off a successful manned Mars mission.
     
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    Would it be worth trying to establish colonies at inhospitable areas on Earth before trying in space?

    Perhaps a habitat dome in the middle of a desert, the (ant)arctic and under the sea? If viable, separate and self-contained colonies can be established in those places then the vacuum of the moon or on Mars should be no problem.
     
  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Sure. That's been done several time and will be done in the future. Here;s an example:
    http://www.mars-one.com/mission/simulation-outpost
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Right. As is the Moon, right now.
    The Moon is a far more dangerous environment to live in. A micrometeoroid isn't going to kill you on Mars.
     
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    We know the Moon far better than anyone else did of the Southern continent and or Antarctic in the late 1700's and up to the 1800's
    Both will require precautions to be taken, and both are going to be visited, the Moon first and a base established. For many reasons other than any Mars preparation.
    Again, if we are unable to set up base on the Moon, we will find getting to Mars very difficult.
     
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    NASA Sets Sights on Robot-Built Moon Colonyby Staff WritersWashington DC (SPX) Jul 17, 2015

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    It may not be quite Earth-like enough to be habitable, but the Moon is our closest planetary body, and that proximity would make it ideal for an extraplanetary base of operations. NASA is now seriously considering that option, and may send robots to terraform a crater on the lunar South Pole.

    In a crowded presidential field during the 2012 US elections, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich came up with a bold plan to make himself stand out among the crowd. While his competitors debated the economy, foreign policy, and Rick Santorum's fear of pornography, Gingrich stepped forward to promise the American people his own childhood dream: moon bases.
    http://www.space-travel.com/reports/NASA_Sets_Sights_on_Robot_Built_Moon_Colony_999.html
     

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