Are you a Hindu now Bowser? Trying to make sense of pain and suffering by the anthropocentricity of nature, that is giving Nature itself an intelligence, seems funny. I agree , there's just Nature. Exactly, we can have these same feelings and deep understanding of oneself without the need to anthropomorphize Nature (make a god of it). ------- To a believer in a god... A new born baby dying 10 minutes after birth, a three or four year old suffering two years of cancer before dying, where does the ''beauty of ourselves'' become comprehendible to that baby or child ?