A Perfect World?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Bowser, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    5,740
    Hey, when it comes to you, I don't know if you've seen a portrait of Christ in toast simply because you wanted to.
     
  2. Guest Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  3. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    53,966
    I'm assuming for the sake of argument that it's true. Don't make it personal.
     
  4. Guest Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  5. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    53,966
    Usually less suffering. In the Middle Ages when suffering was considered the logical consequence of the fall, people accepted it as normal. Now we fight it and sometimes win.
     
  6. Guest Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  7. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    8,828
    I did but sold it on eBay. I'm certain it is the centerpiece of a personal shrine somewhere.
     
  8. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    8,828
    Sure, I used ibuprofen this morning to kill a headache, but I still suffered for some time. Nonetheless, it passed with time.
     
  9. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    53,966
    Way to minimize the issue. You aren't addressing the problem seriously because you have no answer. If suffering is an illusion or not a big deal, then there is no punishment for sin either.
     
  10. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    8,828
    Do you view worldly suffering as punishment from God? I don't.
     
  11. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    53,966
    No, worldly suffering in the Bible is a virtue, which is perverse.
     
  12. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    8,828
    It is as natural as is pleasure. Perhaps it is a virtue? If you can accept it when it shows itself, and survive, are you not that much stronger?
     
  13. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    5,740
    Nietzsche fundie?

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!



    Is God dead or not.

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  14. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    8,828
  15. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,329
    So your saying suffering is your god's version of Nature's evolution. Those that survive your god's inflicted suffering are better for it.What happens to all those that don't survive?
    Why do I see a picture of someone going around kicking pigeons and saying those that survive are stronger and have a better understanding of me their god?
     
  16. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    8,828
    All I know for certain is that suffering is part of life. Some survive, some don't. But as with everything in life, nothing is permanent.

    Yet pigeons are everywhere.
     
  17. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,329
    Which ones? The suffering ones, dead ones or the live ones? In your god's plan, (nothing is permanent) if there's nothing after death, then why invent suffering if there's only one life to live? Why kick the pigeons, causing suffering when their going to die in the end anyway? What benefit does your god get out of making things suffer when their due to die in the end anyway?
     
  18. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    8,828
    I don't know that.

    The question is, what benefit do you get from suffering? Read an article about people who have no pain receptors. They are prone to hurting themselves without knowing it--breaking bones and other injuries. Is there some point in pain, SP?
     
  19. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,329
    The evolutionary benefit of pain, is as you say, it stops the animal doing further damage to itself. But, in your god picture were does this fit in with your god inflicting cancer on life?
     
  20. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    8,828
    Does everyone die? Need death be specific? Do you want to witness your death or would you rather be sleeping when it comes?
     
  21. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,329
    I'm just trying to find out why the suffering (maybe years) before death? I only take this view because of your saying God is everything. That is, your god didn't just turn up in the universe and started altering what it found. Your god is the universe. Will you now be saying your god is only working with what it found and is not everything?
     
  22. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    8,828
    Do you see the Universe ending any time soon. If you had billions of lives to live, would it matter much how you died each time? I'm not wishing for a painful death, but I accept it as a possibility.
     
  23. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    6,822
    The more I think of it, there's no such thing as a Utopia. If there were, we wouldn't be able to appreciate it. In my opinion, it's in the struggles, that we grow. It's in personal growth, where the beauty of ourselves shows itself.
     

Share This Page