A little something I've been pondering lately

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Silent Bob, Aug 29, 2001.

  1. Silent Bob Registered Member

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    I could really use some input on this. It's really hard to explain, it sounds good in my head but bad when put into words so I don't blame anyone if they don't understand it.
    I wasn't thinking about existance and why were are here persay, but it was something along those lines. I need someone to correct me where I'm wrong. Most if not all animals procreate out of instinct correct? They do this to keep their species alive. Humans, having little instinct, has insentive to procreate. It feels good (with some execptions, but that needs no going into) Now then, to cut to the chase... why? We can tell ourselves that we want our species to go on, but how many people use that for pillow talk? Also, we didn't exactly invent ourselves did we? No, I don't personally know anyone who believes that. So basically, who was it that cared if our species or any species thrives? Could it be that something you can look for as a higher power is existance itself? Existance is what created us, through our existance it is sustained. I'd tell you to bear with me at this point, but it doesn't get any clearer.
    I'm not going to get into a religion debate, because I don't personally find any of them to be completely wrong. It seems to me they all have a lot of similarities. It's hard to explain, but they all believe in something comparable to existance as their god. Well I don't know what I'm talking about, so I have only a couple sentances left. When you think about it, there really is life after death no matter how you look at it. When you die, you become something else, something cannot turn into nothing. So basically you can end up being another human... but who is to know? I sure don't
     
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  3. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    If you come upon a clear understanding of this let us know. 1000's of generations have pondered this very subject...
     
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  5. Silent Bob Registered Member

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    Ahh... in my dreams Wet1... I could never hope to understand, just to contemplate.
     
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  7. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Actually humans do have instincts. The intellect is capable of overcoming most but still not all. You have instinctive reflexes, try to get a finger close to the eye. The eye will want to close. Now this one you can overcome. But try holding you breath. You won’t win in the end on that one. Instinct, my friend. And yep, it’s still there watching you.
     
  8. Silent Bob Registered Member

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    Oh I agree, I said we have little instict... which I compare to say, a dog, who will walk in circles on carpet to pat down the "grass" before it lays down.
     
  9. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    I agree and won't argue you that one.
     
  10. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    <i>"Actually humans do have instincts. The intellect is capable of overcoming most but still not all."</i>

    Yes...or we mask it behind complexity while searching for an alternative outlet.

    Silent Bob,

    It reads as though you feel you are a drop within a larger pool. With out a doubt, we are all part of something larger yet alike. I think the question is, what is its extent?
     
  11. Silent Bob Registered Member

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    now you have me interested in instinct... ok... a man licks his finger and tests the wind. Was that a discovery or instinct?
     
  12. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Discovery. The same as letting a handful of sand sift through the fist to discover the wind direction.
     
  13. Deadwood Registered Senior Member

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    I do feel safer when with my dogs. I think they have a sixth sense when it comes to unwanted guests.
     
  14. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    Instinct, is when you head for the fridge when you got the munchies! Or like when you duck between the tracks as the train thunders by over your head!

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    The sole purpose of all living things, is to multiply, grow, expand, evolve and mutate.
    In the same way that life began with single celled organisms, which evolved into multi celled ones, the universe began from a single, tiny source and evolved into trillions and trillions of parts.
    All living things have cells that replicate (emulating the universe itself), therefore the instinct to procreate is fundamental, universal and absolutely inherent in all life forms.
     
  15. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Would you say that mans desire to alter his environment is instinctive--part of his nature?
     
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  17. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Uh...just an FYI: <b><i>bollox or bollix...</i></b> Unless, that is, you are demonstrating the definition of the word.
     
  18. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Then again, maybe you ment to say <i><b>bullocks.</b></i> Yes, very <i>confusing</i>. <img src = "http://www.sciforums.com/t3783/s19e62c7b4680aa2245ff7a1150e933b6/images/icons/icon10.gif">
     
  19. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    According to the Collins English dictionary it is actually bollocks. But who gives a fuck? It's all bollocks anyway!
     
  20. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm... I looked it up in the American Heritage Dictionary. The word must be in transition.
     
  21. machaon Registered Senior Member

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    Instinct

    Mabye we just instinctively overcome our more base instincts.
     
  22. Mr_Japio Registered Member

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    In reply to Bowser and Tablariddim: Would you say that mans desire to alter his environment is instinctive--part of his nature? Yep!

    So what we're saying is that we kill and destroy and all other bad things we can do.... because of instinct? That would be a tad easy way of justifying things, wouldn't it?

    ( oh, and excuse the (maybe) wrong spelling here and there. As you've probably noticed this isn't my native language

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  23. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Welcome to Sciforums, Mr_Japio. Do not worry about your spelling, you are doing just fine.

    Man's desire to alter his world is both instinctive and conscious. It is instinctive to find and make that place his territory. To mark it in some fashion as "this is mine, stay away". It is conscious in that he plans how to do it before carrying his actions out.
     

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