Don't worry about my feelings. I am not here to sort out my feelings. I'm here to discuss a social problem. A deep rooted social problem. If you are new to my posts, let me tell you, I'm not basing these assertions on my personal feelings or needs. That would be ridiculous. It would be much easier for me to go to a 'gay' cruising place and get good sex than waste my time arguing things with a distant heterosexual society which is not going to make any difference for me. In short it is not personal. I have been working with straight men on the ground level for the past 11 years. I am sharing what I saw. I saw huge gaps between what the west has been teaching us and how things existed behind their masks with men. I did a lot of research --- both personal and academic on the issue. And I held long discussions --- both individually (as in counseliing etc.) and Focus group discussion with men. And what I found was a deep rooted conspiracy against men. This discussion board is just a part of my efforts to discuss these issues with a larger audience. It is not possible to explain all that in one past. But I have tried my best, several times, and also recently.......it seems you don't read my replies. You seem to be on a trip of your own. Things are not as simple as you think they are. Elephants are extremely powerful animals. But they still are ruled by humans who treat them like their slaves. And elephants willingly comply. Being powerful does not guarantee that you cannot be ruled. Social training and conditioning can control your behaviour and attitudes away from your natural needs, and can make you divert your natural powers to work against yourself. Men are powerful, but it does not mean that they ruled the world. There are several evidences that in the beginning feminine gendered males --- who were not quite the part of the powerful masculine group --- served as priests and authoritative figures whom everyone listened to and obeyed. It is possible that while men engaged themselves in fighting battles and stuff, feminine gendered men ran the society by being the link between the male and female groups. Marriage institution was created to fill a very important social need of the time. To sustain the growing need for children in the society. The answer to your question is, that men lost their freedom and powers gradually. Very, very gradually to be noticed by any one generation. Remember, in the early days there were no books or recorded histories and no social science. You must understand that the power of men comes from being with each other. Broken from each other they are isolated, vulnerable and weak. The story of male oppression is the story of gradually isolating him from other men. By the time men knew it, they had lost a lot of their social space to bond with each other. But for a long long time they managed by creating enough space which co-existed with the marriage system to cater to their same sex needs. Till the time of the Greeks they had found a balance between the marriage institution and the man's need to bond sexually with other men. But that is when Christianity came and men lost their battle. Man had already become much weaker, and Christianity brought in the power of 'god' to break men completley from each other. After that male bonds went compeletely undergrouond, where surprisingly they survived in disguise till the modern times. They could survive because the society was still basically divided into male and female spaces. The females had no way to know what was going on inisde the male space. And the men hid their true selves and gave them an image closer to heterosexuality (but not quite). An important tool for subjugating men had traditionally been to involve men in putting pressure on each other to have sex with women and to disown their sexual need for men. This peer-pressure was made possible by making these things the most important part of the men's competition for social manhood. Of course, in male only groups men found a way by creating excuses for their same-sex encounters --- and one of them was unavailability of women. But in modern times heterosexualisation changed all that. Male only spaces were made mixed gender and men lost all privacy and breathing spaces. Same-sex bonds had no place to survive in the hostile heterosexual space. They were forcefully dragged out of their hiding --- by continuously shouting 'homo', 'homo' and naturally most of it disappeared. What still remained was labelled 'homosexual' and marginalised into a separate social gender. But just because only a few men cared to fight against all odds to take up the 'homosexual' label doesn't mean that only a few men have same-sex needs. You know nothing about the entire history of mankind. I think you should do some reading. You don't even know that till recently female bonding was 'wrong' in most parts of the world. Marriage was only limited to procreation and family matters. It had little to do with love, romance and female bonding. Female bonding was seen as an unmanly thing. What you see today as the 'reality' in the west was not always so, even if your society wrongly portrays things as such. Btw, Why does the society need to teach that female bonding is right and male bonding is wrong if things are already naturally so?