3 publicly hanged in Iran.

Discussion in 'World Events' started by otheadp, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. otheadp Banned Banned

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    And it ain't the good ol' clean hanging either, where the prisoner drops like a stone 5 feet below, and the huge knot around his neck snaps it, so he dies on the spot.

    These people had small nooses with small knots tied around their necks, were lifted slowly by cranes, their feet dangling, and hung there for a few minutes until they suffocated to death. All the while, the crowd of degenerates below shouted "Allah Akbar".

    Killing them for their crimes is bad enough (libs, how does this sit with your views on capital punishment?) -- but torturing them like that is just barbaric.

    Here's the heart-breaking video

    This is very similar to the public hanging of blacks in the American South in the 50s and 60s.
    There too there were crowds gathered round, hollering insults at the "convicts". There too was a big sense of justice among the executioners and the crowd. There too police was probably involved (though they were rogue officers).

    In this case there were cops involved too - but they weren't rogue. The execution was approved by the current Iranian legal system, and proudly acknowledged by the Administration.

    That culture of lynching that had thrived in the South in the 50s and 60s has been thoroughly condemned (and rightly so) by everyone in America. That culture thrives today in parts of Iran, and is embraced by their legal system and current president. (There has been a public stoning too recently... the first one since 2000)

    The people who did this, the ones who are part of this culture, are the so-called base of the current president of Iran and of the regime of mullahs who are his bosses.

    Think to yourselves - if the executioners of the 50s were in charge of a country, would you trust them? Would you trust their use of the word "justice"? Would you believe them when they say "we do not want to build nuclear weapons. We are peaceful?" Will you respect their right to govern a country and hold a whole people hostage?

    Please explain to me the nuance of why the Southern executioners can be and are condemned wholesale, while the Iranian executioners are not?

    There are some who condemn them "in principle", yet refuse to support any action against them -- the least of which is condemning them loudly, clearly, and proudly. Is that not cowardice?
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Who were the executioners? Was it a legal process?
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    as long as they were gay, it is legal.
     
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  7. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    ?? in the advanced islamic world? noooooooooo come on!
     
  8. draqon Banned Banned

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    anyways in the mind of Islamic nations, torturing is a way to teach others visually that when they will mastermind an evil act they better not commence it since the mind will bring up the images of suffering of those people who did such acts.

    Here is an example of how different countries handle the same issue:

    Issue:
    A boy steals a bagel with cream cheese that his father eats every day and cannot go to job without eating that bagel. The boy is caught consuming that bagel by his brother, mother, and father.

    America:
    The mother and father comment the boy that he not do so because it is bad, they tell the boy that he will not be let to watch TV for 1 week as a punishment, the boy realizes his fault and does not steal anymore bagels, after three days pass he is allowed to watch TV once more and forgiven.

    Iran:
    The father takes the boy outside to the streets. Screams "Allah Akbar" and screams to everyone that his child has stolen from him. The villagers line up with stones and start throwing it towards the boy. After a while the body of the boy is dragged back to the house. In two months the boy feels better.

    in American case...the other boy has learned that not much is done if you cross the line of law. in Iran's case...the other boy inscribes it on his hand to not steal ever.
     
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  9. otheadp Banned Banned

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    "Islamic world" is too broad. Blanket bombing with such accusations the entire "Islamic world" will build an easy strawman for libs to knock down.

    Please don't help them.
     
  10. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    not broad at all. it takes only a few conversations with several muslims from advanced countries to see that such views on the world arent the virtue of only few states and people.
     
  11. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Right... especially the Iranian (and other Muslim) victims of and refugees from such barbarity
     
  12. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    Orthodox Jews hate gays just as much as Islamic radicals.
     
  13. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Nuance: they don't hang them from cranes.
     
  14. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    They would if they could.
     
  15. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Well, if you commit a crime, you are punished. It's as simple as that.
     
  16. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    Well Einstein, sometimes the punishment does not fit the crime. Why do you think we have laws against 'cruel and unusual' punishment here in the states?

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    Use your stellar interweb skills and go research it one day instead of trying to make IACesque posts on here.

    Maybe one day you will wise up and realize that amputating hands for stealing and getting stoned in public for not having a veil on your head is fuckin ridiculous.
     
  17. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Barbaric.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The US has the highest prison population in the world; it used to award death sentences to juvenile offenders until March 2005.

    All countries have evolving legal systems.

    Of course they will; after all they no longer have stocks for prisoners and no one is drawn and quartered after being hung in the West anymore.
     
  19. Xelios We're setting you adrift idiot Registered Senior Member

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    In some countries (like Nigeria and Saudi Arabia) you get your hand chopped off for stealing, so why's Iran getting so much attention lately?
     
  20. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    As a supporter of Syria and opposed to Israel I must say Norsefire makes all of us look like barbarians, doesn't help the image much. The Assad government does not operate like Iran's, or Saudi Arabia's. Anyone displaying the flag of Syria should know that. Norsefire defames the flag and hurts the cause by grandstanding with ANTI Assad fundamentalists.
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Its time to liberate the Iranians. I wonder how many of them the US and Europe are willing to accept as immigrants. The last known figure for the Iraqis was 2 million in the US
     
  22. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    there are crazy jews as well yes.
     
  23. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Oh I agree 100%. I wasn't saying that that was a fit punishment, I do know about the constitutions amendment on crime and punishment

    I was simply stating, if you commit a crime, you are punished. Perhaps for the Iranians, that is a ridiculous crime. It sure as hell would never happen in Syria, but then again Israel is longtime known to be a violater of Human Rights
     

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