3+3 is NOT 6

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  1. freestyle Registered Senior Member

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    3+3=2x3 is a more correct aswer

    if you on the other hand said 3+3 / 1 THEN the answer would be 6

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    get it?

    who said math and philosophy dont go well together
     
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  3. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    What are you talking about?

    3+3 = 6*1 also.... 1.5*4...
     
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  5. freestyle Registered Senior Member

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    you didnt get my point. it must be my english.

    yes 6*1 IS 6, but only because there is only one 6 in it.
    but if you said 1*6, the answer would be 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, and 1.
    or 1+1+1+1+1+1. there would be six 1's, and no 6'es.

    1.5*4 on the other hand is simply 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, and 1.5, not 6, also because there are no 6'es in it. if you count the numbers there will only be four 1.5's in there, and no 6'es!

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  7. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    How would you write out the sum for 1/2?
     
  8. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds like he's playing games with semantics. Depending on the number system you use, you can get all kinds of weird answers.

    For example, if you take the ireal numbers mod 1, then you have

    0 + 1 = 0
    1 + 1 = 0
    0.5 + 1 = 0.5.

    Get it?
     
  9. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    2+2+2=3*2....
    1+1+1+1+1=5*1...
    9+9+9+9+9+9=6*9...

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  10. freestyle Registered Senior Member

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  11. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Symbols vs values can be a fun game to play.
     
  12. D H Some other guy Valued Senior Member

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    Freestyle, multiplication is defined as repeated addition.
     
  13. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Only for the integers.

    \(\sqrt{2}*\pi\) = ?
     
  14. D H Some other guy Valued Senior Member

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    Picky, picky.

    Note well: I am talking about the addition and multiplication that people have performed for thousands of years, not some strange mathematical invention.

    Multiplication of the reals is defined by extension from the multiplication of the rationals. Multiplication of the rationals is defined by extension from multiplication of integers. Multiplication of the integers is defined as extended addition.

    I haven't the foggiest idea what freestyle is going after. Freestyle: What is \(\sqrt 2 + \pi\)?
     
  15. physik Registered Member

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    Sorry, i do not understand what you said!
     
  16. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Freestyle, in addition to the above, what is 4+7?

    Maybe 4*1 + 7*1? But you want to remove the "+," right? so how do we do this interms in 4 and 7?
     
  17. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    one spoon + one spoon = 2 spoons
    one fork + one spoon = 1*2
     
  18. freestyle Registered Senior Member

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    1 spoon + 1 spoon = 1 spoon & 1 spoon
     
  19. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    There is no spoon.

    (hey, someone had to do it!)
     
  20. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    Whaaa??

    adding a fork and spoon does not equal multiplying a fork and spoon.

    spoon=x
    fork=y

    which means your statement above would look more like:
    x+x=2x
    y+x=y+x. it does not = yx
     
  21. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Ok, this thread is making less sense than it did since I first replied.
     
  22. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    two eating utensils.
     
  23. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    True, but dude wasn't abstract about his variables. He specifically labeled them 'fork' and 'spoon'.
    Example,

    One fruit + one fruit = two fruits (x+x=2x)

    BUT,

    one apple + one orange = one orange and one apple (x+y=(x+y))
     

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