101 Zen Story Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by EvilPoet, Jan 20, 2003.

  1. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    What happens if you want Buddist humor? Is that bad?
     
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  3. Dave the Druid Registered Senior Member

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    I don't think so!

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    Not at all. Laughter is as much a part of life as anything else and should be explored. Consider meditating and breaking out laughing. LOL

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  5. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Hi Dave

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    Whew! I'm so glad you said that. Thanks for the
    suggestion on meditating, I will definitely take it into
    consideration. I take it this meditation is best done
    on the floor? You know, for safety reasons?

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  7. Dave the Druid Registered Senior Member

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    Well yes...

    Evilpoet,

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    the floor beats falling out of your chair. That reminds me of a storey about becoming enlightened but I forget it right now.
    Laugh it's good for you.
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  8. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Dave,

    Yup, I agree laughing is good for you. Seeing as I have had the experience of falling out of a chair before I also agree with you on that too. NO fun at all imo. Paul's Law: You can't fall off the floor. Speaking of laughter, I'm still looking for that article on Buddhism and laughter, which is why I haven't posted it yet. I forgot where I put so it might take awhile. You know how it goes (I hope).

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    I have a request, if you wouldn't mind, could you post the story when you remember?

    And on that note, I have to get going. Have a good one everyone.

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    Cya later,
    EvilPoet
     
  9. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Know yourself

    "I tell people to get to know themselves. Some people think this means what beginners observe, and consider it easy to understand. Reflect more carefully, in a more leisurely manner---what do you call self?"

    -Zen Master Foyan
     
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  10. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Some food for thought ...

    Labels and Objective Truth

    "Because you grasp labels and slogans, you are hindered by
    those labels and slogans, both those used in ordinary life and
    those considered sacred. Thus they obstruct your perception of
    objective truth and you cannot understand clearly."
    -Zen Master Linji, Zen Essence

    Objective Perception and Understanding

    "If you want to perceive and understand objectively, just don't
    allow yourself to be confused by people. Detach from whatever
    you find inside or outside yourself---detach from religion, tradition,
    and society, and only then will you attain liberation. When you are
    not entangled in things, you pass through freely to autonomy."
    -Zen Master Linji, Zen Essence

    Peace and Quiet

    "When you have attained mental and physical peace and quiet,
    don't get stuck in peace and quiet. Be independent and free, like
    a gourd rolling and bobbing on a river."
    -Zen Master Dahui, Zen Essence
     
  11. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    Ah yes, I see it much better now.

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    Wow, I think I am progressing!

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  12. Dave the Druid Registered Senior Member

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    Small things

    Firefly,
    Well done! Sometimes it's the small things that lead to enlighenment. I am still looking for those storeys that end with 'and he was enlightened' but when I find them I will post.

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  13. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Firefly,

    I am glad that translation was clearer. In my opinion, clarity is
    very important and should be sought as much as possible.

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    Some food for thought ...

    "Buddhism is so vast and sophisticated that it is difficult to fully
    understand all the Buddha's teachings, and see the results
    through practice and cultivation. Be determined and persistent.
    Do not give up or retreat." -Buddhism In A Nutshell
     
  14. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    FireFly...it will pass.

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  15. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    It Will Pass

    A student went to his meditation teacher and said, "My meditation is horrible! I feel so distracted, or my legs ache, or I'm constantly falling asleep. It's just horrible!"

    "It will pass," the teacher said matter-of-factly.

    A week later, the student came back to his teacher. "My meditation is wonderful! I feel so aware, so peaceful, so alive! It's just wonderful!"

    "It will pass," the teacher replied matter-of-factly.

    Source: Zen Stories To Tell Your Neighbors
     
  16. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Some (more) food for thought ...

    Talking About Zen

    "Talking about Zen all the time is like looking for fish tracks
    in a dry riverbed." -Zen Master Wuzu, Zen Essence
     
  17. Dave the Druid Registered Senior Member

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    So True

    Evilpoet,
    That said should we refocus our discussion? Perhaps discuss a specific storey until it's over done and not not quote the old sources but give our take on the readings. Or am I being too serious.

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  18. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, that's what I thought this thread was going to be about!
     
  19. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Dave,

    I think we should just go with the flow and not worry about it.

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    Going with the Flow

    A Taoist story tells of an old man who accidentally fell into the river rapids leading to a high and dangerous waterfall. Onlookers feared for his life. Miraculously, he came out alive and unharmed downstream at the bottom of the falls. People asked him how he managed to survive. "I accommodated myself to the water, not the water to me. Without thinking, I allowed myself to be shaped by it. Plunging into the swirl, I came out with the swirl. This is how I survived."

    Source: Zen Stories To Tell Your Neighbors
     
  20. Dave the Druid Registered Senior Member

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    I think you are right

    I just prefer posting where the original quote is so that there is continuity ( for me at least ). Quote and stack the responses.

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  21. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Like my note says: "If you want to discuss this story or any
    other story you can post in this thread or over here in this
    thread."

    Either here or over there, doesn't make any difference imo.
    Whichever is better for you guys. I'll just go with the flow.

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  22. Dave the Druid Registered Senior Member

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    Thank You!

    Evilpoet,

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    Thanks for that! I started to loose the plot on the humor postings so I'll just reply when I think it'll do any good.

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  23. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Dave,

    Sounds good to me.

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