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R1D2

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Suicides..
What's your "thoughts" on suicides?
I was told once that it was wrong. And your cheating others out of there time with you.
If you believe in a heaven. Would you get in?
I just want to know what the thoughts are on here.

Also can you make a suicide really look like murder? Or a murder look like suicide?

Killing..
Or murdering other humans.
Again what's your thoughts?
How do you feel about those in prison that have killed other humans?
And again for those that believe in a heaven. Do those on here feel that those that killed others can enter heaven?

And what about suicide murdering killers?
As an example. The ones in the middle east. Or maybe the "family member" that kills his family then himself.
Let's keep it as civil as possible.
 
Suicides..
What's your "thoughts" on suicides?
I was told once that it was wrong. And your cheating others out of there time with you.
If you believe in a heaven. Would you get in?
I just want to know what the thoughts are on here.

Also can you make a suicide really look like murder? Or a murder look like suicide?

Killing..
Or murdering other humans.
Again what's your thoughts?
How do you feel about those in prison that have killed other humans?
And again for those that believe in a heaven. Do those on here feel that those that killed others can enter heaven?

And what about suicide murdering killers?
As an example. The ones in the middle east. Or maybe the "family member" that kills his family then himself.
Let's keep it as civil as possible.

If your quality of life is not worth living and there is no chance it will ever improve, assisted suicide is the best way to go. The people who care about you will understand. When you talk about murder, I take it you mean the unjustified killing of another human. If that's the case, they need to be removed from the general population one way or another.
 
Suicides..
What's your "thoughts" on suicides?
Many and various; case by case. In principle, i have no problem with it: i believe in self-determination.

I was told once that it was wrong.
Many people take it upon themselves to decide what's right for others. I believe they are wrong.

And your cheating others out of there time with you.
That's a matter of contractual obligation. If you have promised a certain amount of time to another person, you should try to fulfill that promise, to the extent of your ability: realize that you don't control time. Before making such a promise, people need to realize the limits of their control; when undertaking a life-time commitment, couples should discuss end-of-life options.

If you believe in a heaven. Would you get in?
I don't. If i had a faith, the character of the deity in charge would determine whether i dared take a chance on disobeying its wishes; whether i expected sympathy and forgiveness or eternal revenge.

Also can you make a suicide really look like murder? Or a murder look like suicide?
Both, and they're done frequently. You could fool laymen, most police, many ME's - rarely a good forensic pathologist and never a god.

Killing..
Or murdering other humans.
Killing comes in many varieties and classifications. Murder is only one. The definition of murder is a legal matter, which varies with place and time and culture; the commission of that crime also varies greatly by motivation and circumstance. Too big for one post, or a single, comprehensive opinion.
 
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