thinking about being a vegetarian

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by chris4355, Mar 11, 2010.

  1. chris4355 Registered Senior Member

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    i dont know, i guess i kinda feel guilty about it. this has nothing to do with my health.

    i tried it once before and found it really hard, i really enjoy eating and really like the taste of meat. but at the same time dont like the idea of factories that grow and harvest conscious animals. and i dont like supporting them by eating their food.

    what do you all think? any vegetarians here?
     
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  3. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    You're a carnivore. Deal with it.



    I understand your point on the meat industry very well. But let's be realistic- YOU are not going to drive them into bankruptcy by boycotting meat.
    They won't even notice that you're gone.

    If you truly want to make a difference-- Then Make One.
     
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  5. chris4355 Registered Senior Member

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    everything starts somewhere. the idea of being one didnt come from me, but from people around me becoming vegetarians. and there appears to be a gradual increase.

    i dont agree with you. good decisions perpetuate, i alone may not change it, but if i do, and influence others to, and they influence more, then a noticeable change will be there.

    the only problem with it is that its so frikkin difficult.
     
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  7. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    It's a great idyll. Embrace carbohydrates, they're going to have to replace large slabs of protein and it may take a little getting used to.

    It'll probably help if you can visualise meat as fatty, bloody and grotesque.

    Develop an aversion to the putrescence of beast and it will be a doddle.
     
  8. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    OK, then seek out meat that has been raised properly. Look for free range chicken, and organic meats, raised on small farms, by people who care.

    It's more expensive, but you'll enjoy it all the more, and perhaps to finance the extra cost, slip a few vegetarian meals in here and there. This way, you will have reduced the meat you eat, taken steps towards becoming vegetarian by eating vegetarian meals, and improved animal welfare, all in one change.

    I was vegetarian for eight years. I eat meat again now, but check what I'm eating was raised properly, and love a good bean chilli as much as a meat one. Don't aim for a sudden, definitive change, Vegetarianism ISN't a religion, and it would be better that the entire planet ate half as much meat, then half the planet eating none.
     
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  9. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    But making the whole system collapse is rarely the individual's reason for no longer paying people to do something you think is immoral.
     
  10. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    That souns like the way to go an then see whare it leads... i remenber likin the taste of meat (from about 35 years ago) but i like not eatin meat mor than eatin it so bein vegetarian was never a prollem for me.!!!

    PS
    In the meantime give you'rself a brake... avoid feelin gulity about what you eat... i dout that anybody is 100% true to what they thank ther morals shud be.!!!

    How so.???
     
  11. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    No, it is a lack of belief in eating meat.

    Oh, the ironies.

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  12. superstring01 Moderator

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    Ideologically, I love the idea of vegetarianism. . . it's just that I love meat too fucking much. Cow meat. Pig meat. Chicken meat. Meat. Meat. MEATTTT!!!

    ~String
     
  13. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Life can be a Bich... eh.!!!
     
  14. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Oops, that should have read ISN'T!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Me too, but that's why I now seek out better quality meat, free range chicken, eggs, etc, and skip meat with the odd meal, so when I have it, it's good, and I really feel like eating it.

    A local farmshop does the best bacon I've tasted. Saturdays, we often walk the dogs near there, then pick some up for breakfast. There is no water in it, it grills brilliantly, damn, roll on Saturday.
     
  16. superstring01 Moderator

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    Huh. I'm the same way.

    I happen to live in a gold mine of local growers and producers (in the summer, at least), so it's rarely a struggle. My sister raises very high quality cattle and has a moderate chicken farm. No hormones. No nonsense. Just good, grain (non corn) fed cattle and chickens. So, I have an "in" for the good stuff.

    ~String
     
  17. chris4355 Registered Senior Member

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    good points. but i want to try not eating meat and see how it goes... if not ill definitely take your ideas into account phlog

    my guess is im gonna last a week max~~ last time i tried about two years ago, in 10 days i lost 5 pounds (and im not overweight), was tired all day and couldnt focus on school. but i think im gonna make sure I get a full diet this time.
     
  18. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    OK, if you suffer from tiredness, look for foodstuffs with a low 'G.I.' or Glycemic Index. This means you digest them at a more leisurely place, and they release their energy more slowly, so you maintain your blood sugar levels more evenly.

    Basmati rice has a low/medium G.I. so make yourself a chana saag aloo (Chick Pea, Spinach, and Potato) curry, and have Basmati rice with it. (chick peas have a low G.I.)

    Legumes and pulses are low G.I. and mighty tasty, a bean chilli (I use kidney beans, chick peas and butter beans) will keep you going. Most nuts also, and a good protein snack will make make you feel full and stop you eating less healthy stuff between meals.

    Lentil curry, a nice spicy daal, tasty, low G.I.

    You could try getting a sprouter. Sprouting alfalfa is almost the perfect food, and you can sprout all manner of pulses and seeds (cress/mustard etc) and add to salads.

    Most importantly, make mealtimes interesting. If you have veggie friends, it's a great excuse to get invited round for dinner, to get them to share recipes.
     
  19. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    Going veg is difficult at first but when I discovered South Asian cooking it was a goldmine. So many tasty veg dishes.
     
  20. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Being a Vegetarian now in 2010 is far easier than it was in the late 1980's or early 1990's, back then the only real vegetarian suppliment to replace meat was "Tofu" or some seriously dehydrated soya produce found only in health food stores.

    In the UK you can find alot of Linda McCartney, Quorn and store brand vegetarian foods. In fact in the UK they've made it easier by having the Vegetarian Association award a "V" mark on some products. Most ingredients lists will have things listed as being Vegetarian or Vegan, or at the very least have a list of things that could potentially effect allergy suffers.

    In the US I know it's been a little slower over there, If you hit Walmart, you're likely stuck with mostly Tofu products. You might have to find a decent healthfood shop which sells fresh vegetables too, they'll have entire aisles devoted to vegetarian/veganism. Of course you usually only find this in the main Cities, not so much small backwater towns. There might be healthfood shops in some Malls, so remember to keep an eye out.
     
  21. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    I guess you don't vote either?
     
  22. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    The description of his diet you are failing to name, is omnivore.
     
  23. chris4355 Registered Senior Member

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    interesting info. im gonna do some reasearch on this. and no, i dont have any veggie friends~~
     

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