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pjdude1219
04-21-08, 11:18 AM
http://www.blogscooper.com/New-research-reveals-kids-who-dont-play-videogames-at-all-are-more-at-risk-of-violent-tendencies/
this is neat some people did research on if video games make people more violent and found that the reverse was true

Mr.Spock
04-21-08, 11:32 AM
you should see my keyboard after a game of fifa :mad:

otheadp
04-21-08, 12:52 PM
http://www.blogscooper.com/New-research-reveals-kids-who-dont-play-videogames-at-all-are-more-at-risk-of-violent-tendencies/
this is neat some people did research on if video games make people more violent and found that the reverse was true

When I was a kid I used to play the WWF (now WWE) video game. Then at the swimming pool I body slammed my sister in the water with moves I saw in the game. She didn't particularly like it...

Monkey see, monkey do.

It's not an absolute link, but common sense dictates that some kids will be influenced by the video games they play.

countezero
04-21-08, 12:57 PM
I hear life influences people, too.

Roman
04-21-08, 01:11 PM
I hear life influences people, too.

I demand evidence to back up this wild and outlandish claim.

otheadp
04-21-08, 01:44 PM
I hear life influences people, too.

Is that supposed to be a counter to what I said?

shichimenshyo
04-21-08, 02:13 PM
http://www.blogscooper.com/New-research-reveals-kids-who-dont-play-videogames-at-all-are-more-at-risk-of-violent-tendencies/
this is neat some people did research on if video games make people more violent and found that the reverse was true

I dont believe this at all, there are mountains of evidence to suggest otherwise.

otheadp
04-21-08, 02:25 PM
I dont believe this at all, there are mountains of evidence to suggest otherwise.

I like how people need "scientific evidence" and "studies" to tell them what they instinctively already see for themselves :)

The people demagoguing this sort of thing (i.e. making it seem like the link is absolutely there or absolutely not there) are (1) parents advocacy groups and (2) gaming advocacy groups. These debates are never-ending because both of the demagoguing sides are wrong (as all demagogues always are).

The real answer is that the link is not absolute, i.e. it doesn't happen 100% of the time, but you can be pretty sure that your child might act out what they experience in the games they play.

CutsieMarie89
04-21-08, 02:30 PM
But acting out what kids see in videogames doesn't mean that they are violent people. It just means that they imitate what they see like everyone does. My brother plays videogames about ninjas and watches tv shows about ninjas and sometimes he pretends to be a ninja and he throws things when he's playing, but he isn't a violent person he won't even play football because he's afraid of hurting other kids.

Roman
04-21-08, 02:30 PM
These debates are never-ending because both of the demagoguing sides are wrong (as all demagogues always are).

Logical fallacy.

shichimenshyo
04-21-08, 02:32 PM
I like how people need "scientific evidence" and "studies" to tell them what they instinctively already see for themselves :)

The people demagoguing this sort of thing (i.e. making it seem like the link is absolutely there or absolutely not there) are (1) parents advocacy groups and (2) gaming advocacy groups. These debates are never-ending because both of the demagoguing sides are wrong (as all demagogues always are).

The real answer is that the link is not absolute, i.e. it doesn't happen 100% of the time, but you can be pretty sure that your child might act out what they experience in the games they play.

No, but studies can show whether or not being subjected to something can increase or decrease your risk of doing something, it doesnt need to be absolute, in fact it rarley ever is

shorty_37
04-21-08, 02:36 PM
My boys play Xbox games with Violence. They also have toy guns and swords around the house too. Does that mean they are going to act it out? I have never had a situation yet of either one of them causing trouble at school or hitting anyone. If anything they are more jokers laughing all the time.

CutsieMarie89
04-21-08, 02:37 PM
I don't think it can be denied that playing videogames causes children to imitate them. Children imitate everything they see or hear. No matter where its coming from.

shichimenshyo
04-21-08, 02:38 PM
My boys play Xbox games with Violence. They also have toy guns and swords around the house too. Does that mean they are going to act it out? I have never had a situation yet of either one of them causing trouble at school or hitting anyone. If anything they are more jokers laughing all the time.

Yes, thats the well its never happened to me approach, just because they dont ever act out doesnt mean that they dont have an increased chance of doing so.

CutsieMarie89
04-21-08, 02:40 PM
By acting out do you actually going around and stabbing people because they saw it in a videogame or do you mean just playing, like they are characters in the game?

shorty_37
04-21-08, 02:44 PM
Yes, thats the well its never happened to me approach, just because they dont ever act out doesnt mean that they dont have an increased chance of doing so.

True, but if they didn't play with toy guns or play army games does it mean they would never act in violence either? You just never know :shrug:
I have always thought toy guns and playing cops and robbers was always just a typical boy thing.

shichimenshyo
04-21-08, 02:51 PM
True, but if they didn't play with toy guns or play army games does it mean they would never act in violence either? You just never know :shrug:
I have always thought toy guns and playing cops and robbers was always just a typical boy thing.

It is, but it doesnt change the fact thatobserving violent behavior and or playing in a violent fashion doe statistically increase the rick of violent outbursts especially in young children.

shorty_37
04-21-08, 02:54 PM
It is, but it doesnt change the fact thatobserving violent behavior and or playing in a violent fashion doe statistically increase the rick of violent outbursts especially in young children.

I guess only time will tell with my 2. So far they are so easy going I can't even imagine it. I mean they have never even thrown a tantrum over anything :shrug:. I will let you know if they ever end up a juvenille hall saying it's all my moms fault and those guns she used to buy us. lol

Also that is just a small part of what they do. They like playing sports, skateboarding, motorbiking, fishing etc.. If they became obsessed with it I would put a halt on it for sure.

CutsieMarie89
04-21-08, 03:16 PM
It is, but it doesnt change the fact thatobserving violent behavior and or playing in a violent fashion doe statistically increase the rick of violent outbursts especially in young children.

I don't think videogames can alter your personality. I think it has more to do with who you are as a person that makes you violent not what you see on videogames.

shorty_37
04-21-08, 03:21 PM
I don't think videogames can alter your personality. I think it has more to do with who you are as a person that makes you violent not what you see on videogames.

Me too. My neigbour sons used to come over and play XBOX and if he didn't win he would throw the controller on the floor get all mad and storm out of here. I put an end to that quickly and said if you act like that you aren't coming over here to play and you will be buying a new controller. I thought maybe it was just the video game playing that got him so made. But apparently at school she got a note home that he owed 15.00 for a tennis racket. They were playing in gym and was losing or whatever and smashed it on the ground breaking it.

Luckily this phase only lasted a couple yrs and he grew out of it for now anyway. His personality is so much different then my kids though.

But at least I got to teach mine about not being sore losers, so something came out of it :)

shichimenshyo
04-21-08, 03:21 PM
I don't think videogames can alter your personality. I think it has more to do with who you are as a person that makes you violent not what you see on videogames.

No, they will not alter your perso, however they can bring out certain parts of your persona that would otherwise not be prevalent. Everyone has the ability to be violent, some people just act on it.

EmmZ
04-21-08, 03:22 PM
There's definitely an innate set of behaviours, which can be exacerbated by secondary conditions.

LORD_VOLDEMORT
04-21-08, 03:29 PM
Children must be taught.You could let a child play Mortal Kombat or watch bootyshakers on B.E.T and teach them to have a backbone.When i was a child the things our parents did let us watch would always come with a lesson.If you teach your daughter entertainment is simply entertainment and that she should never shake her rear naked ass on stage or at school she will grow to be that individual.A child with no guidance of course is going to follow what he or she sees.That is what parents or the guardian who is supposed to be experienced are for.

shichimenshyo
04-21-08, 03:33 PM
Children must be taught.You could let a child play Mortal Kombat or watch bootyshakers on B.E.T and teach them to have a backbone.When i was a child the things our parents did let us watch would always come with a lesson.If you teach your daughter entertainment is simply entertainment and that she should never shake her rear naked ass on stage or at school she will grow to be that individual.A child with no guidance of course is going to follow what he or she sees.That is what parents or the guardian who is supposed to be experienced are for.

You have to realize though that young children cannot differentiate between entertainment and reality.

superstring01
04-21-08, 06:01 PM
I hear life influences people, too.
I demand evidence to back up this wild and outlandish claim.

LOL!

Well, I think there is evidence that video games negatively influence neglected children. All kids need guidance. Watching the video games over and over, and never getting the necessary love and attention of a parent, may be the whole thing.

But, you know what? If you look a little closer at my previous statement, it wasn't so much the video game as it was the parents. Garsh Goofy, it might actually be the parenting.

But, sure, it's all the video game manufacturers' fault.

~String

TW Scott
04-21-08, 06:19 PM
No, they will not alter your perso, however they can bring out certain parts of your persona that would otherwise not be prevalent. Everyone has the ability to be violent, some people just act on it.

Actually the more likely situation is that a person already prone to violent outburst buys violent videogames becuase they identify with them more.

shichimenshyo
04-21-08, 06:21 PM
Actually the more likely situation is that a person already prone to violent outburst buys violent videogames becuase they identify with them more.

I'm talking about children being exposed to them...I dont think you see kids going out to the local game store and buying GTA..at least they arent even supposed to be able to.

shorty_37
04-21-08, 06:23 PM
I'm talking about children being exposed to them...I dont think you see kids going out to the local game store and buying GTA..at least they arent even supposed to be able to.

No you can't rent them either. When I am at Blockbuster there are kids trying to rent games rated M all the time. They are told that they can't rent them without an adult.

shichimenshyo
04-21-08, 06:23 PM
No you can't rent them either. When I am at Blockbuster there are kids trying to rent games rated M all the time. They are told that they can't rent them without an adult.

yup:D

shorty_37
04-21-08, 06:32 PM
I think kids also need a good balance of things. I mean if my son sat there and all he wanted to do is play games all the time, I wouldn't allow it. Kids need to get outside, get some exercise and fresh air. If they are into a bit of everything, I think they will be fine. I remember he used to go out when he was younger to see if the neighbourhood kids wanted to come out. One kid in particular never wanted to go outside. His mom had to force him to go out and do something even for an hour to get him away from the Playstation. I have never had those worries. My kids play a bit more in the winter, when it is cold outside. But come the nice weather like now, I can barely get them in the house.

shichimenshyo
04-21-08, 06:33 PM
yea....kids are getting freaking lazy.

TW Scott
04-21-08, 10:48 PM
I'm talking about children being exposed to them...I dont think you see kids going out to the local game store and buying GTA..at least they arent even supposed to be able to.

What? you think some children can't be inherantly violent. I grew up when videogames were just becoming semi common things in arcades. Where Atari 2600 was SOTA and I will tell you what there were kids who were just prone to bullying, fighting and genral meanness. You could argue it was cartoons, but I know at least two of the bullies in my school didn;t have TV becuase their parents did not believe in them.

Honeslty human beings are incredibly violent by nature. We have the ferocity and drive to survive in the Savannah against Lions and Hyena's. We are literally the fiercest predator on the planets, as a race. Why is it so surprising that we are still a little violent as individuals sometimes.