Just a bit of friendly competition, nothing serious. Kadark and I, and I'll put it quite plainly, are basically fascists.

Ok, so who would you want for head of state?


My Policies

The rights of the individual, in so long as they are within social boundaries shall be protected; abortion shall be legal, as will euthanasia and Homosexual civil unions.

If elected as the head of state, my absolute main goal will be social unity. This unity will not be because of our race or our sexuality, but our brotherhood, together as one, all for the same flag. United in spirit. This unity and sense of brotherhood will welcome all men of all religions and all lifestyles, so long as we adopt each other as fellow countrymen and loyalty remains to the state.

Dialogue will be a must and I will encourage national conversation and empathy for the differences that we will undoubtedly have; I feel that without dialogue, you aren't really solving the problem, but merely hiding it and sweeping it under the rug. No, I will encourage national forums and encourage the citizens to speak freely and speak their minds and their opinions, so that I may do a better job for them. Freedom of press will be absolutely guaranteed. We must understand each other, not murder each other.

The will of the people comes first always, and of course, I will encourage cultural conformity but I would not persecute those that choose not to conform. Instead, I can provide incentives for them to relocate but no force shall be taken on the citizens of the State lest the government become tyranny.

I will encourage unification in moral code, so that the nation operates smoothly and we have standards by which we can all measure to.

Above all for the society, petty matters not be condemned or emphasized; no, we will have UNITY through LOYALTY, regardless of our differences. One nation, one flag. Tolerance, but cohesion


My efforts will be focused on the cultivation of the mind, and education will be of the utmost. The welfare of the people is before any other demand, and all shall be entitled to the basics of health and opportunity. Citizens shall be encouraged to go ahead, however, in a capitalistic socialist society where all have equal opportunity, but you have to use that opportunity.

Localization of government shall be encouraged to provide for the different groups of people we will undoubtedly have, all under a unified central banner.

Government shall be both efficient, but also democratic. The silly politics are undesirable. Welfare first.

Crime shall be tackled both by eliminating the cause and by increasing police presence and ability, while remaining wise against corruption. CCTV cameras shall be put in place in all public areas, ID cards shall be compulsary, and former offenders shall be tagged.

The justice system shall rely on a forgiveness policy for first offenses and second offenses, but eventually if you misues or abuse that mercy, you shall be given none. Criminals can be helped but in the end, if they do not use the help we give them, they will not be tolerated.


A sense of patriotism and community and love of fellow man shall be encouraged.


The government shall not incorporate religion into its operation, and so it shall be secular. Citizens shall be granted everything required to become beyond Human, and Government shall be your Big Brother.

I voted kadark because in a thread before you suggested he's not a semite, that's enough for me, I hope it's true.

I vote Kadark because I think he's smarter and more rational than you.

I vote Kadark because I think he's smarter and more rational than you.

How so?

Too lazy to explain.

Too lazy to explain.

I voted for myself

I vote norsefire because I think he has a more forgiving soul. However I do not believe norsefire has a very "forgiving" so to speak "soul"... So I think the poll is useless. I do not believe it is very nice to do that .

Oh crap I put this in the wrong subforum I meant about the members can a mod move it please? thanks

I voted Kadark. And while I do think that he would probably be one of the four horsemen of the apocolypse, I can at least know that I wouldn't have to suffer from his retarded, un-educated, idiotic, shifty, assinine and utterly sophomoric comments while being persecuted.

~String

Why is that string?

If elected Supreme Dictator, I vow to tear down the Constitution and erect, in its place, a theocracy. This theocracy will be complimented by social conservatism and religious traditionalism, outlawing homosexuality, abortion, piercings, drugs, alcohol, pornography, tattoos, adultery, euthanasia, most television programs, and pre-marital sex. I will depopulate cities by spreading individuals across the landscape of our Empire; essentially, I will be vehemently against urbanization. All money in circulation will be "hard money"; that is, all money will be backed by a valuable commodity. The economical structure will be that of regulated capitalism; the taxing system will be small but compulsory. The death penalty will be used in appropriate circumstances, and the concept of "prison" will be a thing of the past.

Democracy, as we know it, will not be in effect. Military service will be mandatory for all men above the age of eighteen who are physically capable. Protests and rallies in the name of gay/lesbian rights, feminism, animal rights, and environmentalism will be strictly outlawed. Education will be optional and flexible. Health care will be universal.

Parents will be encouraged to discipline their children as they please, without Government interference. All "secret societies" and "secret agencies" will be thoroughly abolished. The police force will be small; instead, individuals will be encouraged to help their communities remain safe and stable. There will be no curfew of any kind, and religious freedom is absolute. Gender roles will be prevalent: men will be expected to be breadwinners, and women will be expected to be housewives. Exceptions are permitted, although certainly not encouraged. The dress code will demand modesty from all individuals.

The foreign policy will be that of non-interventionism and neutrality; trading will be encouraged. Our nation will resolutely reject any and all international invitations to globalization, which includes "World Bank", "World Health Organization", "United Nations", etc. A multiple party system will not exist, and every province within the Empire will be united at all times under a single leader. The rule of a Supreme Dictator will last a decade; upon expiration of this date, the Supreme Dictator may be re-elected by a representative council.


Kadark

Kadark knows, at the very least, enough to govern well (or at least better than you). You don't.

~String

I vote for whoever pays me more. I am awaiting offers in PM...

Kadark knows, at the very least, enough to govern well (or at least better than you). You don't.

~String

What do I lack?


Damn Kadark.....that's extreme!:D

I hope nobody regrets voting for me.


Kadark

Errr. I change my vote.

Ehh. Never mind. Kank. Kodos. Either way, we all lose.

~String

I'll go into detail like Kadark did later


But I assure you, my government will be absolutely secular

outlawing homosexuality, abortion, piercings, drugs, alcohol, pornography, tattoos, adultery, euthanasia, most television programs, and pre-marital sex.
Kadark


Thats all I needed to hear, I vote Norsefire. I mean sure the TV shows, abortions, drugs, alcohole, homosexuals, adultery, and euthanasia I can live without, but sex and my ear ring? no thanks.


peace.

I vote for whoever pays me more. I am awaiting offers in PM...

To keep you is no benefit; to destroy you is no loss.

Errr. I change my vote.

Ehh. Never mind. Kank. Kodos. Either way, we all lose.

~String

How do we all "lose"? In exchange for unhealthy and materialistic obsessions, our citizenry will be blessed with a strong economy, no corruption, and a serene lifestyle. It is truly an ideal society and system.


Kadark

Ok done.

Booo.

You don't sound like a fascist at all!


Kadark

I voted for Norsedark.

Horsefart lost my vote when he dissed my beautiful Lebanon.لا تتدخل مع لبنان ، يا حمار

I would vote for Kadark only if I was a part of the government. But since I believe it will be small, and the chances of me being in it are too slim, I would rather live under norsefire. My vote goes to him!

NORSEFIRE KNOWS BEST
2012 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN

Voted for Norse obviously. We have a major differences and it definately gets heated sometimes, but Kadark is just insane.

It's head of state, not supreme dictator. I voted Kadark because I like the guy more than I like Norsefire, and neither one is gonna be able to destroy America entirely.

This is why two party states don't work. I vote neither.

I voted for Kadark because though he's evil, he's not retarded.

If elected Supreme Dictator, I vow to tear down the Constitution and erect, in its place, a theocracy. This theocracy will be complimented by social conservatism and religious traditionalism, outlawing homosexuality, abortion, piercings, drugs, alcohol, pornography, tattoos, adultery, euthanasia, most television programs, and pre-marital sex. I will depopulate cities by spreading individuals across the landscape of our Empire; essentially, I will be vehemently against urbanization. All money in circulation will be "hard money"; that is, all money will be backed by a valuable commodity. The economical structure will be that of regulated capitalism; the taxing system will be small but compulsory. The death penalty will be used in appropriate circumstances, and the concept of "prison" will be a thing of the past.........

Kadark

This sounds like Pol Pot.
You are a Communist!

I vote for Kadark.

Hmm..

What a tough choice..

NEITHER !!!

they both are a bit nuts to me!!

Kadark pls take that isnenstive avatar down hitler was a vile anti islamic mass murdering shit eater, why you are glorifying this cunt is beyond me..

why have you got it as your avatar in the first fuckin place???

surely you dont like the cunt??

To keep you is no benefit; to destroy you is no loss.


I see, not very good at making friends or alliances....

Never try the game survivor...

Neither.
I wouldn't piss on either if they were on fire.

I would hope you would only get one vote each.

Damn...it's like picking whether you want your nuts pounded with a claw or ball-pin hammer.

Damn...it's like picking whether you want your nuts pounded with a claw or ball-pin hammer.

lol

outlawing pornography, most television programs,


Kadark

Another vote for Kadark :D

Sheesh, whats a choice between a douche and a turd?

Neither.

Horsefart lost my vote

Horsefart...AAAhahahahha!
Well done, a classic.

BTW, What's the difference between a cavalry horse and a draughthorse?

A Cavalry horse darts into the frey..a draughthorse just farts into the drey.. and if that doesn't sum up Norsefucker, nothing does.

Perhaps Kadark and Norsefire are the same person.

Perhaps Kadark and Norsefire are the same person.

No. Not even close. Just two misguided cretins..one slightly less cretinous than the other.

Would you like a flaming case of gonorrhea, or would you prefer advanced syphilis?

Just give me aids.
It'd be less painfull.

norsefire lies
once elected, he will change tack
a fucking quisling

both should be shot on sight
norse thru the head
kadark thru the knee
then tortured till demise

ban the fuckers
do it!

Sheesh, whats a choice between a douche and a turd?

Neither.

I would've suspected they both lived up to your standards? What's the problem?

You mention brotherhood. Is your government sexist norsefire? Or are men and woman seen and treated equaly? With equal options in government and the work force?

I voted for Norsefire, because he was behind and I like a tight pu... I mean race.

By the way what are we voting for? Who has the bigger dick? Why wasn't I included?

Sheesh, whats a choice between a douche and a turd?

Neither.

That's fine. Under my system, sluts such as yourself would not be allowed to vote, anyway. :)

***

My system offers a harmonious balance, and it is the only true hope for mankind. It will drastically reduce crime, corruption shall not exist, and societal cancers will never be allowed to grow.

Come one, come all! The poll has spoken!


Kadark

Perhaps Kadark and Norsefire are the same person.

We live about 3,000 miles away from each other (just a rough estimation). I would like to meet him, though, since he seems to be a cool guy. It's hard not to like him; however, his system would fail, and I am not afraid to admit that.

Spud Emperor, on the other hand ... wow. I'd rather piss a cactus out of my dick than meet him. People like him refuse to respect my system, only because they fear it. Truly, my system is a recipe for unparalleled power. Even the Prophets would make no amendments with it.


Kadark

Spud Emperor, on the other hand ... wow. I'd rather piss a cactus out of my dick than meet him.
Kadark

Ok...now you have my vote.

Truly, my system is a recipe for unparalleled power. Even the Prophets would make no amendments with it.

In that, I have no doubts.

ahh
sam darlin
a beacon of moderation
sci loves you now, girlfriend!

My system offers a harmonious balance, and it is the only true hope for mankind. It will drastically reduce crime, corruption shall not exist, and societal cancers will never be allowed to grow.
Kadark


exactly
kill the islamofascist, kadark and peace shall reign on earth for a thousand years

exactly
kill the islamofascist, kadark and peace shall reign on earth for a thousand years

My vision and ideals have chiseled the greatest Empires in the history of mankind.

You dare stand in my way?


Kadark

yes
the barbarians always prevail in the end
silly maggot
you tawt wrong

My vision

you just like to take advantage of the menfolk while they prostrate and pray with their asses high up in the air

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9348/islamprayeruv5.jpg

ja
you canna fool me

/sneer

oh dear
there you go again
making a dash for that vacuum cleaner again

/pathetic

can you alternate b/w blow and suck?
do you?
is there a preference?
what kind of horsepower does it have?
make and model please

/gratitude

Move one step over to the right, Gustav.

That's it. Good job.

/frantically presses bulging red button under desk to activate trap floor leading to a pool of honey surrounded by malnourished grizzly bears

I have a project due tomorrow, so don't bother me. If you have a complaint with the system, then ... well, too bad! I guess you could neatly write down your concerns and place it in that big brown box over there, but I warn you: the janitor empties that box into the rest of the garbage every night. But hey! It will still help to get it off your chest, right?


Kadark

ahh
youth
sweet

ja
go do your homework, boy!

/indulgent

Do you know anything about Design and Graphics for Engineering?

SolidEdge version 20, perchance?


Kadark

nope
i am still grappling with subtraction and addition

hypewaders I've never dissed Lebanon....prove to me that I have oh wait you can't


Anyway this was an interesting thread. So what other two members are super alike in their politics?

Booo.

You don't sound like a fascist at all!


Kadark

What are you talking about?

Strong police, strong social structure?

Sure it's tolerant but it's also rigid


New Policies:

Mandatory military training, national service for women

New Policies:

Mandatory military training, national service for women

You're frigging kidding me. I'm overthrowing your "government" :mad:

No you misunderstand; it's mandatory for everyone, but for women, just "national service" not necessarily military service

I'm still overthrowing your government.

Vote for me. FREE BEERS!!!! :D

darn - wish I'd been in this thread from the beginning - watching closet 2 gays (like so deep in the closet they are both almost in Narnia) like Kadark and Norsefire going at each other is just hilarous.

I'm still overthrowing your government.

Vote for me. FREE BEERS!!!!

My gov'nment would be better than your theocracy

What are you talking about?

Strong police, strong social structure?

Sure it's tolerant but it's also rigid

You don't have a stable economical structure. You're a candidate who talks much about bringing change, yet you refuse to release the blueprints for your plans. I have mentioned nothing but specifics, whereas your campaign revolves around abstract concepts which cannot be forced unto the citizenry. My system destroys moral poisons and unhealthy materialism; it strengthens the family unit, and helps faith grow throughout the empire. Corruption shall not occur, as secret agencies and societies are rigidly outlawed; in addition, paper money is obsolete, meaning our empire will never fall into the abyss that is debt.


Kadark

I can't be assed to read that, but I voted for ole Norsey. I think some of his opinions are idiotic, but Kadark....he is a dangerous piece of shit.

My economic plan is simple: provide to the citizens a basic equal playing field. The state will pay for everything necessary for this, free health care, college, and education, via an "income tax"

"Income" though will be different; based on your job importance and difficulty, you'd be given credit, which is yours to use.

In this way it's a socialist state, industry is primarily by the government, for the welfare of the people

However, citizens are granted the right to venture into business for THEIR OWN PROFIT if they meet the requirements with their obligation.

Privatization will be encouraged, but the state will provide basics or alternatives

Government positions shall be purely meritocratic in how government officials are chosen

My system destroys moral poisons and unhealthy materialism; it strengthens the family unit, and helps faith grow throughout the empire. Corruption shall not occur, as secret agencies and societies are rigidly outlawed; in addition, paper money is obsolete, meaning our empire will never fall into the abyss that is debt.


You could be on to something there, sort of a cross between the Taliban and Nazism.

Naziban?

My gov'nment would be better than your theocracy

Don't be silly, it would not be a theocracy, I'd be a dictator. :mad:

... I'd be a dictator. :mad:

No you wouldn't. I would.

I've got the dick, so I make the rules.


Kadark

I wouldn't like to think of myself as a "dictator", but instead, "the highest servant of the state"

Or "guide"

Or "big brother"

How about "great leader", "father of the nation", or "illustrious one"?
Would you style your hair any different though?

I prefer Shahansha, myself.


Kadark

in addition, paper money is obsolete, meaning our empire will never fall into the abyss that is debt.

It'll just fall into the abyss that is total economic collapse.

It'll just fall into the abyss that is total economic collapse.

Huh? Artificial inflation, thanks to paper money created out of thin air, is the force that is assraping your nation's economy.


Kadark

Huh? Artificial inflation, thanks to paper money created out of thin air, is the force that is assraping your nation's economy.


Kadark

No, the force that is doing it is the government. Your poorly concieved policies also gets rid of credit- the life blood of the modern age. I guess if you wanted to turn your country into a 3rd world shithole, you've got a solid plan.

Hold on Kadark, how can you have a theocracy and have religious freedom? Even though it can be done, it will discriminate against the people that are not of the state religion.

Secularism FTW. And I've always been secular.

Hold on Kadark, how can you have a theocracy and have religious freedom? Even though it can be done, it will discriminate against the people that are not of the state religion.

Secularism FTW. And I've always been secular.

Norse, you are really starting to scare me. We have got to stop this whole agree'ing with each other thing. It's creeping me out lol.

What is it that we disagree on?

Besides fascism is usually atheist and secular in principle.

Believing in Human willpower and controlling our own destiny

By the way I'm not trying to demonize atheism here I'm only saying that fascism believes in Human power before supernatural power and so many fascists were also atheists

Kadark, your world would eliminate happiness from many people's lives. What would be the point of life itself? Besides, it wouldn't work. We are used to democracy; we would rebel.

At least Norse's views are practical. Take Civil Partnerships - you can't stop people from being gay; that it just how their brains work. Legally binding partnerships between homosexual couples would decrease promiscuity and venereal disease while making sure partners are eachother's next of kin.

Thanks, the reason I would decide to legalize it is because I no longer really think it matters anymore, as long as the nation is united, it doesn't matter if you are gay or straight.

Besides fascism is usually atheist and secular in principle.

Believing in Human willpower and controlling our own destiny

By the way I'm not trying to demonize atheism here I'm only saying that fascism believes in Human power before supernatural power and so many fascists were also atheists

You aren't demonizing atheism at all, because you're wrong.

"8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion."

http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm