the E.U.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ashpwner, Aug 8, 2007.

  1. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    what do you think next superpower or somthing that's gona fail or anything else?
     
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  3. draqon Banned Banned

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    China
     
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  5. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    i heard china basicly owns the u.s now
     
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  7. draqon Banned Banned

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    thats a lie.
     
  8. superstring01 Moderator

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    I don't know. It's a few years off from "Superpower", but it'll probably reach that stage about the same time China does, there'll be three. Also, by that time India, Russia, and Japan will be sizeable global powers as well. Provided that Indonesia and Brazil get their act together, they might be there too).

    Much as the rest of the world likes to browbeat the USA for it's current roll, when the EU and China get there, it'll be better for us and them.

    ~String
     
  9. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    i meant that u.s has borowed so much money from china that the chinise could change the dollar to the value of one yen if they wanted too is that true?
     
  10. draqon Banned Banned

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    Japan? lol.
     
  11. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    yea japan second largest economy of the world japan
     
  12. superstring01 Moderator

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    Indeed. In fact, you'll find in the next decade or two, that the USA will probably grow closer and closer together than you can imagine. The two are symbiotic in nature, most people just don't see it now because of the current growing pains in the relationship.

    The wildcard, IMHO, is Europe and not China. China is a seething capitalist like the USA... it's Europe's "do-gooder-ness" (not intended to be a negative statement) that will stir the mix more than China or the USA.

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  13. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    evry nation is evil i think at the moment the u.s.a is been looked down on cuase of it curent role but if the e.u got it people would look at them the same
     
  14. superstring01 Moderator

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    Yes and no. It won't benefit them to tamper with the American economy to the detriment of the USA-- any negative effects would instantly be reflected back to their economy. In the 1940's a nation could fuck with another nation by manipulating their economy without any ill effects to the home nation-- in the case of China, they are too global and too capitalistic to do so. They want a stable world economy as much as the next guy.

    No, I'm not betting on their "peace loving nature", I'm betting on their desire to keep a profitable economy.

    Yes, Japan. Love or hate them, they are and will probably be the world's refiner of ideas. That's a powerful card. Add in the fact that the world's industrial pivot will be "USA-Japan-China", it will give them a significant role. Japan is also steadily, increasing it's military expenditures. It's expected to increase military spending to surpass the UK this year-- making them second to the USA. Add in the mix that the Japanese own more of China, Korea, Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippines than anybody else, and, again, you have a sizable "regional" superpower and easily, a global player bigger than the UK or Russia currently is.
     
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  15. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the uk should hit super power satus and if it can achieve it with having happen to it what happened to us it will be great for the world.
     
  16. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    nah the u.k wont be able to no natural resources not enough population i dout it maybe with the e.u
     
  17. superstring01 Moderator

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    I don't want to speak on behalf of pjdude, but I'm guessing he meant "EU" and mistyped "UK".

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  18. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    wow caps mean that much
     
  19. Plazma Inferno! Ding Ding Ding Ding Administrator

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    E.U. is too weak to wield the superpowers. There's too much differences and contradictories among EU members.

    Also, there is crucial moment of dependence on the only one real superpower in the world.

    What EU can do except blind following?
    Or expressing the endless awareness, objections and concerns about conflicts, crisis, etc. which is nothing more than an empty talk.
    EU has words, but it lacks deeds.

    No. EU is too elitist and too spineless to become real world power.

    US will be the only one superpower for a long time.
     
  20. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    yea right the U.S will cease to be superpower man it's bound to fall evry nation that raises will fall.
     
  21. superstring01 Moderator

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    The one curveball in the mix is regional and global unification. There is already momentum to unite North America & possibly South America into one Union a la the EU. Couple that with the slow crawl towards global unification (say, in about a century) the issue of "who's a superpower" becomes moot.

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  22. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    More like megapower. One world government, an endless grinding machine with no goal.
     
  23. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    once we do that were gona go to space and start wars with them out of boredom

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