In exactly an hour from now the local clock will strike 13 times. Why?

:)

1 extra for the start of a new day?

I have no idea:D

In exactly an hour from now the local clock will strike 13 times. Why?

Why don't you ask the damned clock?

Baron Max

Its too far away?

:-/

Is there such a thing as a military clock? You know, 1300 hrs, etc.

In exactly an hour from now the local clock will strike 13 times. Why?

:)

Sounds like a time adjustment to me. At 12, it will be advanced one hour - thus chiming 13 times in all. (or perhaps set to 12:30 if it chimes on the half-hour.)

Your clock is broken.

Sounds like a time adjustment to me. At 12, it will be advanced one hour - thus chiming 13 times in all. (or perhaps set to 12:30 if it chimes on the half-hour.)

Why would it be an advantage to chime 13 times when the clock could be adjusted like ALL clocks are?

:p

If it's really your local clock, Billy, I think we should be told where you live.
And whether it did actually happen at 41 minutes past the hour as your post indicates.

That aside, I can think of two clocks that strike thirteen.
The first is in George Orwell's 1984.
The second is in the Czech Republic, yes? Commemorates something or other that happened a couple of hundred years ago?

I'm rather hesitant to give my exact whereabouts in case anyone turns up and picnics on the grounds of thee Madrigal Manor for a middle aged spread. Last time the place was littered with discarded memes, useless research papers and rolled up balls of paper angrily flung at the mongrammed little bins. The endless arguments on the precise number of Parallel Universes although interesting at first became increasingly rabid until informed that the scientists in the other Universes were acting with far more decorum. The competitive spirit must out and thereafter they behaved in a more reasoned manner. The followers of Dickie Dawkins were given Instant Karma to prevent further frothing of the mouth and a ghastly scence involving the local Constabulary was thus avoided.

Czechoslavakia eh!...any link?. Sounds interesting actually.

In my business we do get more than our fairshare of bouncing Czechs..especially in thee Moshe Pytte at thee Annual Punk Festival..eh..East Europe is a bit behind the times musically which is good news considering the present junk that inflicts the ear....personally I'd spell Rap with a capital C.


I'm afraid, Good Sir, you are rather wildly off beam re. Orwellian prognostications, although I understand your reasoning..we ARE indeed under the thumb of the Nanny State...Big Brother on TV 24/7? at least I can switch it orf!!

... Scientists in general have a tendency to over complicate the simplicities of the everyday life by veering off on weird over rationalised tangents whilst neglecting the more everyday realities and consideration of er "normal people" By using everyday creativity an intelligent young child would possibly guess the answer sooner than a laboratory full of white coated scientists. The point is in not to overcomplicate the innocent creativity with unnecessary theorems and nostrums

Whilst pondering the very easy answer here are a few more..err..questions.

How many molecules could you fit into an eggbox?

What in blazes is someone like Sam doing on here..unless for sheer masochistic reasons?

Think on...

It is yet again one of his anti-evolution schemes.. or something like that. I'm sure there is supposed to be some symbolism there.

In exactly an hour from now the local clock will strike 13 times. Why?

:)

It will be 12:15PM

In exactly an hour from now the local clock will strike 13 times. Why?

You can't count.

how long does this go on before we get told the reason why?

Because you are showing the limitations of thinking scientifically.

Why not use common sense for a change?

:p

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_Tower,_Palace_of_Westminster :
"Londoners who live an appropriate distance from the Clock Tower and Big Ben can, by means of listening to the chimes both live and on the radio or television, hear the bell strike thirteen times on New Year's Eve. This is possible due to the one strike offset between live and electronically-transmitted chimes. Guests are invited to count the chimes aloud as the radio is gradually turned down."

:scratchin:

The thread states clearly that the clock "strikes" 13 times, what your suggesting is a solitary chime so I'm afraid you're wrong.

Now most people guess the reason why straight away but scientists and people who tend to over complicate matters. People who have spent more time in Universities than in the real world often make the mistake of reading too much into the question rather than thinking creatively instead of technologicaly.

Its a common flaw in science to measure and rationalise rather than to think creatively. Hence William Blakes well known painting of Isaac Newton.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_Tower,_Palace_of_Westminster :
"Londoners who live an appropriate distance from the Clock Tower and Big Ben can, by means of listening to the chimes both live and on the radio or television, hear the bell strike thirteen times on New Year's Eve. This is possible due to the one strike offset between live and electronically-transmitted chimes. Guests are invited to count the chimes aloud as the radio is gradually turned down."

:scratchin:

Well in that case it does not strike 13 times does it?

I know what you mean though..having had a digital radio and an ordinary radio in seperate rooms theres a time delay.

:p

Learned to count yet, Billy?

The suspense is...boring beyond belief.

A bit too complex for you huh?

You'd much rather waffle endlessly and - witlessly? - about memes. LOL.

Because it is going to be thrown down the stairs and it will strike only 13 of them before coming to a stop.

You are going to throw it at 13 people.


There's a family of people named clock and they will strike each other 13 times.:D

Maybe it chimes a tune on every hour ? A tune with 13 strikes ? :shrug:

I wish it was a tune sometimes although I suppose you could get irritated by that as well.

On that note there have been a number of cases where the church bells have silences either through the Court or by more sinister and typically english means...in this case by a mystery Villager cutting the Bell ropes.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2189458.ece

I think it somewhat fatuous for Secularists and Atheists to buy big homes near Churches and then complain at the merest peal of the Bell.....such pettifogging misery is all too typical in our materialistic ungodly World.


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23409037-details/Church+neighbours+clash+with+bell+ringers+over+9pm +practice+peal/article.do

Anyway..I'll drag you all...kicking and screaming...BACK to the question...its not just a question about Chimes but about how the brain works.

An uncluttered innocent and unfettered creative brain would solve the question straight away.

..nowadays we're hidebound by rules and regulations...we are taught by means of rote and are brainwashed by the latest trendy fad though up by the latest trendy scientist...what was once Velikovsky is todays Meme theoriser..we really shouldnt give them much note...their credence will soon dwindle to a mere footnote in History.

The Bell will...always Toll.

...and eventually someone somewhere will think practically like a workman making the Clock rather than thinking like someone who has been locked in a science lab breeding white mice!

I wish it was a tune sometimes although I suppose you could get irritated by that as well.

On that note there have been a number of cases where the church bells have silences either through the Court or by more sinister and typically english means...in this case by a mystery Villager cutting the Bell ropes.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2189458.ece

I think it somewhat fatuous for Secularists and Atheists to buy big homes near Churches and then complain at the merest peal of the Bell.....such pettifogging misery is all too typical in our materialistic ungodly World.


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23409037-details/Church+neighbours+clash+with+bell+ringers+over+9pm +practice+peal/article.do

Anyway..I'll drag you all...kicking and screaming...BACK to the question...its not just a question about Chimes but about how the brain works.

An uncluttered innocent and unfettered creative brain would solve the question straight away.

..nowadays we're hidebound by rules and regulations...we are taught by means of rote and are brainwashed by the latest trendy fad though up by the latest trendy scientist...what was once Velikovsky is todays Meme theoriser..we really shouldnt give them much note...their credence will soon dwindle to a mere footnote in History.

The Bell will...always Toll.

...and eventually someone somewhere will think practically like a workman making the Clock rather than thinking like someone who has been locked in a science lab breeding white mice!

What is it with you ? If you find scientists and atheists so irritating then why are you a member of sciforums ?
Why do you feel the need to constantly call them immoral, ignorant and what not ? Explain yourself..

I like the pseudoscience and parapsychology forums..they're very active!

I like the pseudoscience and parapsychology forums..they're very active!

Is that supposed to be an answer ?
I think you like trying to disrupt this forum. On top of that your arrogance is astounding and quite irritating.

Can we get back on-topic now, Enmos.

Prior to being redely interrupted...no the answer is nothing to do with quarterly chimes because they only chime once.

As you'll not in the heading the clock strikes 13 times. However you'll again note that it doesn't strike 14 o'clock, 15 o'clock, as in the 24 hr clock so it isn't that either.

You'll recall that the UK was the Centre of the Industrial Revoution at the time..thats a clue. :)

The clock is broken.

Sorry about that.

You've got 2 choices..give Uri Geller a bell or buy a new one.

Now back to the question.

SAM knows the answer and we've both been giggling at the replies - nuthin changes huh? - although to be fair, I only relented after several begging letters.

I know your all on tenterhooks...so to sate thee appetit here is the answer to the question..

How many molecules can you fit into an eggbox?

More than an Oeuf!

that an old french yoke.

:-/

Is that supposed to be an answer ?
I think you like trying to disrupt this forum. On top of that your arrogance is astounding and quite irritating.

Thank you very much. :p

Can we get back on-topic now, Enmos.


I thought that was the topic.. :shrug:
The threads you start all seem to have the purpose of ridiculing atheists and scientists. In every single one of your threads you accuse atheists and scientist (as if the two concepts are synonymous) of being immoral and inherently evil.
And now you are also calling them dumb for not solving your little riddle..
Don't you think its about time to give up ? At least state in your opening posts what the real purpose of the thread is, namely how incredibly immoral, dumb and short-sighted atheists and scientists are in your opinion.

The clock struck twelve times (12 o'clock) and on the last one it fell off the wall and hit you on the head, that was the 13th strike.

The suspense is...boring beyond belief.

Y WASTE TIME POSTIN , DOOD?

The clock struck twelve times (12 o'clock) and on the last one it fell off the wall and hit you on the head, that was the 13th strike.

I'm doing my best to laugh at your wit, John...but somehow scientists seem to have missed out on the "Humour gene.

..well they found a gene for everything else :shrug:

Thanks Billy:)

Just admit you connot answer the qeustion, John, and then move on...hopefully to bother another thread.

:cool:

Y WASTE TIME POSTIN , DOOD?

I'm quite happy posting to state my opinion.

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<< twiddles thumbs >>

While you twiddle your thumbs, can you please think about an answer to my earlier post (below) ?


I thought that was the topic.. :shrug:
The threads you start all seem to have the purpose of ridiculing atheists and scientists. In every single one of your threads you accuse atheists and scientist (as if the two concepts are synonymous) of being immoral and inherently evil.
And now you are also calling them dumb for not solving your little riddle..
Don't you think its about time to give up ? At least state in your opening posts what the real purpose of the thread is, namely how incredibly immoral, dumb and short-sighted atheists and scientists are in your opinion.

Not really although its true that I'm a more than a little sceptical of abstract theories whether they be about existentialism or meme theories because essentially it boils down to semantics.

I take your point though, Enmos. We can't all be expected to agree about everything and the initial mischief making is now past its sell by date now that I'm pretty much a regular poster so no more digs from me.

Talking about digging - theres another HUGE clue!:)

Not really although its true that I'm a more than a little sceptical of abstract theories whether they be about existentialism or meme theories because essentially it boils down to semantics.

I take your point though, Enmos. We can't all be expected to agree about everything and the initial mischief making is now past its sell by date now that I'm pretty much a regular poster so no more digs from me.

Talking about digging - theres another HUGE clue!:)

Thank you Billy.
I think you will get more satisfactory postings in your threads as well when you quit accusing scientists and atheists of immorality etc. Its wrong to generalize in that way. Ill try to watch my language as well.

All forums...and I have my own forum anyhow so I know this...have to have a balance of opinion rather than a group of similarly minded people or cliques. So yes initially because I hold views slightly different from the norm (on here anyway) I'd expect to be 'rubbished' and in a way it stirs the pot at first and results in a lot of interest.

After the initial month or so it gets tedious and having left some personal stamp on things its time to merge more with the tenor of the board. So in a way its premeditated and one over emphasises the point. Fighting fire with fire so to speak.

There really isnt any great need to do that now.

All forums...and I have my own forum anyhow so I know this...have to have a balance of opinion rather than a group of similarly minded people or cliques. So yes initially because I hold views slightly different from the norm (on here anyway) I'd expect to be 'rubbished' and in a way it stirs the pot at first and results in a lot of interest.

After the initial month or so it gets tedious and having left some personal stamp on things its time to merge more with the tenor of the board. So in a way its premeditated and one over emphasises the point. Fighting fire with fire so to speak.

There really isnt any great need to do that now.

This is true, but watching what you say so not to needlessly offend people often helps to create a more meaningful conversation.

Well if actually were a discussion rather than a debate I suppose that would be true. As it is, most people views are already fairly inflexible by their mid-twenties so its very difficult to get anywhere wthen there are people with very entrenched views. Occasionally it happens in Politics and a staunch right-winger will 'cross the house' and change sides completely. Its very rare though and its usually for political/personal gain. I mean I've seen forums develop and its like SAM arguing her Islamist views against the majority. I'm not saying it isn;t worth reading but at the end of 30+ pages everyones finished exactly where they've started.

After awhile you begin to think...well whats the point?

Well if actually were a discussion rather than a debate I suppose that would be true. As it is, most people views are already fairly inflexible by their mid-twenties so its very difficult to get anywhere wthen there are people with very entrenched views. Occasionally it happens in Politics and a staunch right-winger will 'cross the house' and change sides completely. Its very rare though and its usually for political/personal gain. I mean I've seen forums develop and its like SAM arguing her Islamist views against the majority. I'm not saying it isn;t worth reading but at the end of 30+ pages everyones finished exactly where they've started.

After awhile you begin to think...well whats the point?

I admit there is truth in that, but thats all the more reason not to further complicate the 'debate' by offending people. Its rather counter productive.
I will admit it when I realize I was wrong, but a lot of discussions end up in 'fights' rather than conclusions.

In exactly an hour from now the local clock will strike 13 times. Why?

:)
Because it's time to get a new clock?

If you don't like that answer, here's a song:

When the Clock Strikes 13
We'll make a secret rendezvous with a view, like a bridge at nighttime. We'll stare across the water, we'll share a cigarette. Stroll down the embankment, never say a word, like a film, like a story you heard. Lovers holding hands in silence. No one understands - a secret in a hostile world. Defiant stand, they're making plans, a studio in Paris. I could write a novel, get turned down. You'll sympathize: you'll write a poem, all for me, all for me. And each time we make love always seems like the first time. No novelty romance, cos what we have is meant to last, it's in the script, and though it's looking like a storm is brewing and the news is getting bleaker all the time - we've got each other. And all is going to be fine. When the clock chimes thirteen times, that's our time. That's our time.
http://legendarypinkdots.org/archives/lyrics/lpd/song.cp34.html

:D

And no mention of any mice.

I admit there is truth in that, but thats all the more reason not to further complicate the 'debate' by offending people. Its rather counter productive.
I will admit it when I realize I was wrong, but a lot of discussions end up in 'fights' rather than conclusions.

Yes but why its a well known forum trait to have an established 'clique' of people who all tacitly agree on a certain subject and any member who doesn't humbly agree with them is pounced on as a "scapegoat".

So I'm not sure how I somehow 'stumbled' on here and I'd probably have read a few threads and moved on were it not for SAM who was a semi-integrated underdog (she's too feisty to be the scapegoat!). That adds a certain interest because she's on top of her subject and quick thinking with the repartee so that type of thing makes me stick around.

Obviously there are a few people who are a bit 'out there'..I mean personally I;d say even Stryder was more out-of-sync than anything I can come up with. Really it depends on the tenor of the forum. This is a Science forum so we'd know what to expect..and in essence, no matter how bizarre and far-out the scientific ideas you can express them without any disrespect. Obviously ppl may disagree but as long as its science its waved on no matter odd or conspiratorial...this is the Internet after all.

However theres a set agenda..people do not get upset about such things so yes everyones fairly respectful. However, anything with as much as a faint whiff of religion, tradition or on the fringes of it raises the hackles. As the saying goes..'never mention Religion or Politics' at dinner parties because what are friendly gatherings become heated arguments.

So of course, Enmos, we can all claim victory through sheer numbers but its dependent on which forum you happen to be on. If you are on Atheist R'Us then its as difficult to 'calmly discuss' as it would be for anyone here posting on an 'Islamist Forum'..or ANY religious forum..I dont know any but I'm sure they are out there somewhere..lots of them!

So its question of perception. What appears to make perfect sense to me by long experience doesnt necessarily make any sense to someone with no experience. Now sheer experience doesn't make it true..thats granted but it makes it as meaningless to the viewer as say..memes appear meaningless to me and I suspect many others (incl fellow scientists).

But as I say...theres nothing thats going to change anything. Fortuantely SAM catches the eye - sry if this sounds stalkerish lol - because she's clever enough to prevent the place being merely a 'talking shop'. She's challenging ideas and has come up with some interesting points so that arouses interest in my eyes because most forums are very tedious. I think her 'suicide bombers'..arent relgious zealots argument has some merit. And the links are interesting and are of the type that I;d not normally come into constact with.

Thats useful to me because I'm on what is essentially a Political site although it was originally more Music/Arts...but Politics is what I know...but i'm only concerned with what effects ME.

When it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflicts then I usually switch off mentally because i'm not a part of it..and why should I be? Do the Americans switch on the TV News worrying about my concerns...do the Saudi Arabians worry about Crime figures in Manchester ..no :)

....now i think possibly what has changed the mindset of people has been Climate Change/Global Warming...all of a sudden the bloke who usually complains about the litter outside his house is suddenly posting about recycling...and is it worth it?....All of a sudden people who are normally only interested in the provincial everyday mundane affairs of the locality are asking themselves why they are being taxed merely for going on Holiday via Airplane..or moaning about endless airport checks and queues or even of the Airport lounge os about to be blown up by a man of fire shouting 'Allah!'...and so by osmosis the provincial worries of everyday life are growing into worries about what is going on in farflung corners of the World.

So what..ten years ago was of little concern to me has due to the above and of course Iraq, etc...become of more interest to everyday posters. So the 'debate' between religion/science is something worth looking into and despite what you say...well what is 'coversation' seem to me to be more like 'point scoring' and thinly veiled insults. I mean I think its a bit disingenuous and its a case of pot, kettle, black..I know how forums work and..well I'm presuming this is more than a few years old..so by definition it must have some 'hidden..or not so hidden agenda'..and so I'd expect to be jumped on and in that case its alway best to go on the attack rather than be defensive. If you go on being all reasonable and defensive you've had it..get your retaliation in first and then once the dust settles just mingle in fairly innocuously.

I haven't been on here much longer than you though. ;)
Thanks for taking the time to write such a lengthy answer to my post. I agree with most of it, so no need to confirm viewpoints. :)

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Thats my kinda Chuch, boy..the same ole one that Jerry Lee goes to...y'all goin to Hell boys.

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Thats my kinda Chuch, boy..the same ole one that Jerry Lee goes to...y'all goin to Hell boys.

What does the church got to do with anything ?
Y'all going to hell ? Please tell me you're joking..

Clocks don't chime or ring, only bells do.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls it toll for thee.

Bell tolls Zak to leave her alone.... :)

maybe its 1 oclock :eek:


peace.

Clocks don't chime or ring, only bells do.


Ah some progress...

Well spotted, Sherlock!..it is indeed a Church Clock..and yes I can see it from the window. And what else...oh only SAM knows the answer...so do some subtle arm twisting. :p

Ah some progress...

Well spotted, Sherlock!..it is indeed a Church Clock..and yes I can see it from the window. And what else...oh only SAM knows the answer...so do some subtle arm twisting. :p

Didn't I already say it was a church clock ? lol

Ah some progress...

Well spotted, Sherlock!..it is indeed a Church Clock..and yes I can see it from the window. And what else... :p

And another church clock some distance away; when the far bell tolls there is a delay, which is in time with the original chime except for the last one, giving the illussion that the near bell tolls 13 times(at 12).

And another church clock some distance away; when the far bell tolls there is a delay, which is in time with the original chime except for the last one, giving the illussion that the near bell tolls 13 times(at 12).

Yep, nice try. Already brought that one up. Billy says that isn't it. :shrug:

SAM, I'll send you a box of chocolates for the answer.

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz

SAM, I'll send you a box of chocolates for the answer.

After Eight Mints please...we'll share them.:p

broken clock.