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Gifted
03-20-03, 05:42 PM
Why can no one in sci-fi aim? The only exception I can think of is Star Trek, they usually hit what they're shooting at(although I don't see why you can't set your phaser so that when yo uhit the rock it explodes, killing the person behind it, or vaporize the rock). Otherwise most of them have people shooting from the hip, or using weapons that don't have sights, or something. They also don't use grenades when appropriate. Take the openign scene in A New Hope. Teh fight at the door lasts five minutes, and the rebels can't even shoot enough bolts into the opening(which everyone has to walk through) to effectively stop the assault. Very rarely does someone aim carefully, and that's because of some crisis that, if they'd used brains in the first place, wouldn't have happened. Of course, if they did this, we wouldn't have a storyto read/movie/show to watch.

Thor
03-20-03, 06:10 PM
Oh man you have just addressed one of my hates of Sci-Fi. The inability to shoot something at point blank range.

As you said in A new Hope where the Blockade Runner is being boarded, those guys can't even shoot down a corridor properly, just aiming in the general direction and shooting is good enough but noooo!!
And why do main characters always have better aim than the trained grunts??
As for Star Trek, the first shot always misses to add to the dramatic scene. And why do they fly backwards when they get hit? And why isn't there like an anti-phaser vest? And why don't StarFleet personnel wear armour?
Stargate, the Jaffa can not shoot for beans. In the episode with the Jaffa rebels he got 2/3 shots and it took him a millenia just to shoot while Carter fired a complete round in half the time and managed to hit with almost every bullet and then finished off with shooting a very thin peice of rope...thus proving my 'Main characters with better aim' theory.

Man I bitch alot

Pollux V
03-20-03, 07:54 PM
Take the climax of The Empire Strikes Back, for example. First off, what I find funny about the stormtroopers is that they kick major major ass in Episode II (unlike most other scifi forces, they actually hit their targets) but in the later movies I doubt they'd be able to shoot the ground correctly. Anyway, as we see, Cloud City is swarming with stormtroopers, in fact, in one scene chewbacca is running away from one. Chewie turns around, the guy just stands there and gets shot (it's the scene where no sparks come out of his chest, a very quick shot).

The main characters always are better shots. I hope that if they ever make a Halo movie that they set the difficulty on legendary:). Damn, fighting the guys who go "wub wub wub" is really hard. They can take you down out in the open one-on-one. That's never the case with enemies in movies. For one, the agents in The Matrix were pretty good shots and killed everyone they fought with, except Neo of course. Maybe it's just the guys with laser guns. Laser guns must really freak them out or something. They think to themselves "sh*t on toast, I'm holding a laser gun." Kind of like Niel Armstrong's reaction to going on the moon--"holy f*cking sh*t!"

SwedishFish
03-20-03, 11:19 PM
cause it's scifi not gore. it bothers me too but still...

Thor
03-21-03, 04:17 AM
Oh oh, can someone explain this. In the Battle of Hoth scene in ESB, how come the speeders can't penetrate the AT-AT's hull but when one has been 'tripped' one fires 4 or so shots and it explodes

This has always bugged me

Pollux V
03-21-03, 07:49 AM
I don't see why the speeders don't shoot at them from the sides or from behind. I mean, the AT-ATs can only fire in one direction, and they always have to attack from that direction. It's crazy. No wonder everyone who fought in the air at that battle was shot down.

And yeah, that kinda bugged me too. It is a bit odd, suddenly it falls over and its armor is as soft as a baby's bottom. I guess that this is the way:bugeye:

Gifted
03-21-03, 11:03 AM
Something I've been told is that the blasters in Star Wars are not as accurate as, say, a Glock. Still no excuse with all the other stuff they hit.

One thing I dont' get is that SW and Andromeda are about the only sci-fi's that put sights on weapons. take ST's phasers, they don't have sights?! And the photon torpesoes don't home. Andromeda and SW Ep. 2 are the only ones I've seen that actually use homing missiles.