Just imagine people had no fear to die - corruption, dictatorships, mafia, bullies, and many mor injustices would be almost extinct. On the other hand, there are many not so good consequences. Anyway, I do think any kind of human social progress will be possible only if significant % of population will lose fear of death.

Or they could be just incredibly reckless.

Greed, fear, anger.... all those things break social progress...

They'd make great soldiers.

No kidding. That's how the army trains people to become mindless killers... :rolleyes:

Just imagine people had no fear to die - corruption, dictatorships, mafia, bullies, and many mor injustices would be almost extinct.

Why do you say that? I don't get your reasoning or logic in making that statement, much less the evidence to back it up. Can you explain?

Baron Max

Why do you say that? I don't get your reasoning or logic in making that statement, much less the evidence to back it up. Can you explain?

Baron Max

Because everybody is so concerned about his/her arse, small % of people can do nasty things to the overwhelming majority. Because they have slightly more guts to begin with and later on, once new rules of a game established, they don't need any guts to do that. Take racket, street crime, corruption, work place conditions, dictatorships.... Everybody is so concerned about his wellbeing and precious life so he avoids to meddle in, isolates himself, hoping to secure his relatively calm and wellfed life by drifting along.

Just imagine people had no fear to die - corruption, dictatorships, mafia, bullies, and many mor injustices would be almost extinct. On the other hand, there are many not so good consequences. Anyway, I do think any kind of human social progress will be possible only if significant % of population will lose fear of death.

...that experiment has been done already. and has failed.

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/109000/109489OuWS_w.jpg

...that experiment has been done already. and has failed.

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/109000/109489OuWS_w.jpg

When was that? And where?

When was that? And where?

...well aside from the picture...which really has nothing to do with the subject...the experiment has been done in Soviet Union in its time. Cant give you specific thou.

Soviet people didn't resemble people with no (or even little) fear, I'm afraid. For some reason, I can't see the picture.

Soviet people didn't resemble people with no (or even little) fear, I'm afraid. For some reason, I can't see the picture.

...the 20 million dead defending Russia during WWII...the Stalingrad battle...

...the 20 million dead defending Russia during WWII...the Stalingrad battle...


Can't just an average person die in a war? Are all soldiers in the world fearless heroes? I'm sorry to tell you but 13,000 of soviet troops were shot (by soviets) for cowardice, treason... during Stalingrad battle. Besides, really brave soldiers can turn into cowards in the real life. There is little comradery in the real life to have stimulus to be brave, everybody for himself/his arse, his wellbeing.

Can't just an average person die in a war? Are all soldiers in the world fearless heroes? I'm sorry to tell you but 13,000 of soviet troops were shot (by soviets) for cowardice, treason... during Stalingrad battle. Besides, really brave soldiers can turn into cowards in the real life. There is little comradery in the real life to have stimulus to be brave, everybody for himself/his arse, his wellbeing.

look there def. was bravery and also there were some rabbits out there...rabbits got shot no doubt...but the brave ones...the result is: russia won the war with other allies against nazists.

look there def. was bravery and also there were some rabbits out there...rabbits got shot no doubt...but the brave ones...the result is: russia won the war with other allies against nazists.
Every war is won by somebody. Do bravest always win? There are lots of things besides bravery needed to win a war. But I was trying to tell something else. You seemed to be a Russian, you must know about the wild accumulation of capital after collapse of USSR. Had people given no rat arse about their lives, Russian criminal gangs and bureaucracy couldn't just rob people, scared about their miserable lives, blind. Racket economy is not a sign of a brave populace, not matter the war bravery.